No Nav destination override on '07 IS
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Ideally someone would just post a hack of the small *.ini or *.dat file that controls the operating system nanny restrictions.
Then I could copy all the info off my map dvd to hardrive make the modification and then reburn a new dvd for my use. This would be a much more elegant solution than wire cutters behind the dash.
Then I could copy all the info off my map dvd to hardrive make the modification and then reburn a new dvd for my use. This would be a much more elegant solution than wire cutters behind the dash.
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Ideally someone would just post a hack of the small *.ini or *.dat file that controls the operating system nanny restrictions.
Then I could copy all the info off my map dvd to hardrive make the modification and then reburn a new dvd for my use. This would be a much more elegant solution than wire cutters behind the dash.
Then I could copy all the info off my map dvd to hardrive make the modification and then reburn a new dvd for my use. This would be a much more elegant solution than wire cutters behind the dash.
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This is the part I don’t understand. You CAN do those things while driving through the voice activation system. Yes, it may be a bit slower, but is that reason enough to break out the wire cutters?
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For me yes... I want the option of using the voice OR touch-screen. I refuse to let someone else dictate what I can and cannot do. I bought the navi option, I should be able to use it as I wish, and I will...
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I would never take such risks, but it’s your car not mine.
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I would never take such risks, but it’s your car not mine.
Honestly, it's a VERY simple "hack". You simply bypass 2 wires, and ground a 3rd. Fairly trivial actually...
But, for someone who has never even been behind the dash of a vehicle before, yes, they could end up with all sorts of problems... But people like that should not be doing this themselves, they should take it to a professional, else suffer the consequences! lol...
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I've found voice recognition to be an oxymoron with my car. It fails to recognise more than it succeeds.
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At any rate, if yours doesn’t function too well, break out the wire cutters, and good luck.
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Well, mine works fine. I love to put in “dial by name” and then “home” to call my house. Works every time. I haven’t used inputting destinations via voice recognition as much but it does seem to work
At any rate, if yours doesn’t function too well, break out the wire cutters, and good luck.![Thumb Up](https://www.clublexus.com/forums/images/smilies/thumbsup.gif)
At any rate, if yours doesn’t function too well, break out the wire cutters, and good luck.
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And after doing the "wirecutters" hack on a $53,000 Infiniti M45, I agree it ain't rocket science.
BUT ... the wiring hack has a problem in terms of the system losing your position. It ain't just "jumpy nav" ... the system will actually lose you if you switch off the VSS circuit, and you'll have to stop to get it to catch up with your actual location.
And, Technique ... I've just re-read the entire nav hack thread, and mussman makes it clear the jumpy nav/position loss problem was NOT solved if you're trying to bypass the motion lockout for the nav ... only if you are hacking just the DVD player and BT.
My hacked Infiniti was so troublesome that I disconnected it after trying it on a road trip. It just sucked to have the nav show me in the wrong place.
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After using 3 different OEM car systems and 3 aftermarket ones, I kinda have to agree that the IS's VR is a little inaccurate and ponderous. A touchscreen is always faster and easier.
And after doing the "wirecutters" hack on a $53,000 Infiniti M45, I agree it ain't rocket science.
BUT ... the wiring hack has a problem in terms of the system losing your position. It ain't just "jumpy nav" ... the system will actually lose you if you switch off the VSS circuit, and you'll have to stop to get it to catch up with your actual location.
And, Technique ... I've just re-read the entire nav hack thread, and mussman makes it clear the jumpy nav/position loss problem was NOT solved if you're trying to bypass the motion lockout for the nav ... only if you are hacking just the DVD player and BT.
My hacked Infiniti was so troublesome that I disconnected it after trying it on a road trip. It just sucked to have the nav show me in the wrong place.
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And after doing the "wirecutters" hack on a $53,000 Infiniti M45, I agree it ain't rocket science.
BUT ... the wiring hack has a problem in terms of the system losing your position. It ain't just "jumpy nav" ... the system will actually lose you if you switch off the VSS circuit, and you'll have to stop to get it to catch up with your actual location.
And, Technique ... I've just re-read the entire nav hack thread, and mussman makes it clear the jumpy nav/position loss problem was NOT solved if you're trying to bypass the motion lockout for the nav ... only if you are hacking just the DVD player and BT.
My hacked Infiniti was so troublesome that I disconnected it after trying it on a road trip. It just sucked to have the nav show me in the wrong place.
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OK, here's the way I'm going to do the nav hack:
1) Wire splice the dvd functions and BT and mp3 folder functions (This will NOT affect the VSS, and will NOT cause jumpy nav)
2) Split the VSS and add a SWITCH on the dash to enable and disable the VSS, whenever I want to enter a destination into the nav during motion, I flip the switch and instantly the VSS is disabled (Yes, the nav will be jumpy for the 30 or so seconds while I am entering the destination, but it's irrelevant when you are entering in the dest). After I finish, I flip the switch back, the VSS is re-connected, and the nav is no longer jumpy. This is the best solution I believe, even for people with the older version of the nav since you don't have to deal with the service menu.
Sorry if I wasn't clear about the splice + switch combo. Take a look earlier in the thread and you'll see links to BOTH "hacks". I plan to do both.
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OK, here's the way I'm going to do the nav hack:
1) Wire splice the dvd functions and BT and mp3 folder functions (This will NOT affect the VSS, and will NOT cause jumpy nav)
2) Split the VSS and add a SWITCH on the dash to enable and disable the VSS, whenever I want to enter a destination into the nav during motion, I flip the switch and instantly the VSS is disabled (Yes, the nav will be jumpy for the 30 or so seconds while I am entering the destination, but it's irrelevant when you are entering in the dest). After I finish, I flip the switch back, the VSS is re-connected, and the nav is no longer jumpy. This is the best solution I believe, even for people with the older version of the nav since you don't have to deal with the service menu.
Sorry if I wasn't clear about the splice + switch combo. Take a look earlier in the thread and you'll see links to BOTH "hacks". I plan to do both.
1) Wire splice the dvd functions and BT and mp3 folder functions (This will NOT affect the VSS, and will NOT cause jumpy nav)
2) Split the VSS and add a SWITCH on the dash to enable and disable the VSS, whenever I want to enter a destination into the nav during motion, I flip the switch and instantly the VSS is disabled (Yes, the nav will be jumpy for the 30 or so seconds while I am entering the destination, but it's irrelevant when you are entering in the dest). After I finish, I flip the switch back, the VSS is re-connected, and the nav is no longer jumpy. This is the best solution I believe, even for people with the older version of the nav since you don't have to deal with the service menu.
Sorry if I wasn't clear about the splice + switch combo. Take a look earlier in the thread and you'll see links to BOTH "hacks". I plan to do both.
But see, that's exactly what I did with my Infiniti's nav - installed a switch on the VS circuit. And during the 30 seconds or so while the VSS is disabled, the nav freezes and freaks out. Then, when you flip the switch back it doesn't know what to do.
I'll retell a story I've already related: On a road trip, I pulled out onto I-80 in Wyoming and flipped the hack switch so I could enter a new destination. The interstate curved off the right while the hack was active, and when I turned it back to normal, the nav showed me as being about 4 miles off to the left of where I actually was. It continued to show this for 100 miles until I stopped for gas, and in the meantime it showed me sailing along through fields and lakes and right across roads and railroad tracks. Almost funny, but stupid, since none of the nav info was correct, including "nearby POI's".
Another time, it just kept repeating "Please proceed to the highlighted route" until I couldn't stand it anymore and stopped.
Believe me, disconnecting the VSS - even for a couple minutes - will F up your nav display. It may work occasionally, but most of the time it blows.
So try it if you want, and give us a report.
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But see, that's exactly what I did with my Infiniti's nav - installed a switch on the VS circuit. And during the 30 seconds or so while the VSS is disabled, the nav freezes and freaks out. Then, when you flip the switch back it doesn't know what to do.
I'll retell a story I've already related: On a road trip, I pulled out onto I-80 in Wyoming and flipped the hack switch so I could enter a new destination. The interstate curved off the right while the hack was active, and when I turned it back to normal, the nav showed me as being about 4 miles off to the left of where I actually was. It continued to show this for 100 miles until I stopped for gas, and in the meantime it showed me sailing along through fields and lakes and right across roads and railroad tracks. Almost funny, but stupid, since none of the nav info was correct, including "nearby POI's".
Another time, it just kept repeating "Please proceed to the highlighted route" until I couldn't stand it anymore and stopped.
Believe me, disconnecting the VSS - even for a couple minutes - will F up your nav display. It may work occasionally, but most of the time it blows.
So try it if you want, and give us a report.
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I'll retell a story I've already related: On a road trip, I pulled out onto I-80 in Wyoming and flipped the hack switch so I could enter a new destination. The interstate curved off the right while the hack was active, and when I turned it back to normal, the nav showed me as being about 4 miles off to the left of where I actually was. It continued to show this for 100 miles until I stopped for gas, and in the meantime it showed me sailing along through fields and lakes and right across roads and railroad tracks. Almost funny, but stupid, since none of the nav info was correct, including "nearby POI's".
Another time, it just kept repeating "Please proceed to the highlighted route" until I couldn't stand it anymore and stopped.
Believe me, disconnecting the VSS - even for a couple minutes - will F up your nav display. It may work occasionally, but most of the time it blows.
So try it if you want, and give us a report.
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Let me summarize the last 10+ pages of this thread:
- Buying a '06 IS250/350 w/Nav: apprx $40k
- Membership to CL Internet forum: Free (relatively)
- Having the Nav Override software 'hack': Priceless
- Buying a '06 IS250/350 w/Nav: apprx $40k
- Membership to CL Internet forum: Free (relatively)
- Having the Nav Override software 'hack': Priceless
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