Quality issues
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Quality issues
A few years back I ventured on this site and commented about the various problems I had experienced with my 2002 Mercedes C-230. I must have had twenty hits telling me how great the Lexus brand was and they never have a problem, yada, yada, yada. So I listened to you guys and here's what happened since.
Well, I've had my new 2006 IS250 for less than a month and it's in the shop with a mirror that does not dim as it should. No big deal really and I'm driving a new IS350 around. However as I'm shutting down the loaner for the night I tried to shut the moonroof and it will not shut. I've spent the last 20 minutes trying with no luck. It wants to stay in the tilt up mode. The loaner has only 175 miles on the clock and was built back in May while mine was built in July. Both were put together in the 'famous' Tahara plant.
What's up with that?
Well, I've had my new 2006 IS250 for less than a month and it's in the shop with a mirror that does not dim as it should. No big deal really and I'm driving a new IS350 around. However as I'm shutting down the loaner for the night I tried to shut the moonroof and it will not shut. I've spent the last 20 minutes trying with no luck. It wants to stay in the tilt up mode. The loaner has only 175 miles on the clock and was built back in May while mine was built in July. Both were put together in the 'famous' Tahara plant.
What's up with that?
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How true.............It's really not that big of deal. But I was surprised some. Bottom line is I really like the car, it's ride and handling and the just overall feel of all the switchgear, etc. I have little doubt that the car will bring many years of driving joy.
Since the loaner has no owner's manuel in the car and mine is in the shop. Is there any safety issue I'm missing in trying to close the moon roof. I mean I tried all the buttons, etc?
Since the loaner has no owner's manuel in the car and mine is in the shop. Is there any safety issue I'm missing in trying to close the moon roof. I mean I tried all the buttons, etc?
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I should have said "why are you concerned with the [apparent] quality of a "loaner"...."
I have been in loaner ES330 that was nearly a wreck but I'm pretty sure not all ES's are problematic...I didn't even give it a second thought. It's like getting in a Hertz rental car....
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Every brand has their jinxed cars. But for every one of those, there will be ten C230's with even more issues... OK, I obviously pulled that number out of my ***, but you know what I mean. I just hope you're not insinuating that this somehow proves that Lexus is just as unreliable as Mercedes.
I don't want to sound like some biased, defensive nutjob, but it's a fact that Lexus is the most reliable major automaker in the globe, whereas Mercedes is down there with Land Rover. Not really an opinion... Anecdotal evidence doesn't really prove otherwise.
I don't want to sound like some biased, defensive nutjob, but it's a fact that Lexus is the most reliable major automaker in the globe, whereas Mercedes is down there with Land Rover. Not really an opinion... Anecdotal evidence doesn't really prove otherwise.
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Hello!!! RockGuy3.
Did you not read my earlier post where I said in part: "I have little doubt that the car will bring many years of driving joy". I'm very, very happy to have my Lexus.....
I'm still wondering if anyone else has had a problem with the moon-roof not closing? And yes, the pointer was facing the front.......and the side and everywhere else and still would not close the roof!!!
Did you not read my earlier post where I said in part: "I have little doubt that the car will bring many years of driving joy". I'm very, very happy to have my Lexus.....
I'm still wondering if anyone else has had a problem with the moon-roof not closing? And yes, the pointer was facing the front.......and the side and everywhere else and still would not close the roof!!!
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Every brand has their jinxed cars. But for every one of those, there will be ten C230's with even more issues... OK, I obviously pulled that number out of my ***, but you know what I mean. I just hope you're not insinuating that this somehow proves that Lexus is just as unreliable as Mercedes.
I don't want to sound like some biased, defensive nutjob, but it's a fact that Lexus is the most reliable major automaker in the globe, whereas Mercedes is down there with Land Rover. Not really an opinion... Anecdotal evidence doesn't really prove otherwise.
I don't want to sound like some biased, defensive nutjob, but it's a fact that Lexus is the most reliable major automaker in the globe, whereas Mercedes is down there with Land Rover. Not really an opinion... Anecdotal evidence doesn't really prove otherwise.
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Just remember when you are on top the only place you can go from there is down. Lexus won't be on top forever as much as I hope they do but lets face reality.
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There was a time when nobody could touch Mercedes quality right up until some corporate beancounter decided to start cutting corners and we now know how that turned out.
Hopefully that Japanese mindset will continue to demand a quality produt and the pride and pursuit of perfection will carry on. PLease................