For 2008, IS250 cancelled & Replaced by IS300
#61
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IS250 is not selling well over here, people would rather go for Audi's and BMW's.
An Audi A6 3.2l V6 Attraction / 255 ps is prices 42.340 €
A BMW 530i Premiere /258 PS is priced 44.050
An Auto IS250 Pack Executive / 204 PS is priced 46.600 €
Guess what ... it does not sell quite well. In order to compete with german cars at that level of pricing, it requires much more power.
An Audi A6 3.2l V6 Attraction / 255 ps is prices 42.340 €
A BMW 530i Premiere /258 PS is priced 44.050
An Auto IS250 Pack Executive / 204 PS is priced 46.600 €
Guess what ... it does not sell quite well. In order to compete with german cars at that level of pricing, it requires much more power.
#65
Someone took these pics of a dealership in the middle east.
Here is middle east lexus website.
http://www.lexusoman.com/English/index.html
"The 3.0 litre, 228 HP, V6" - They have to put this engine in the 2008 IS250!
Here is middle east lexus website.
http://www.lexusoman.com/English/index.html
"The 3.0 litre, 228 HP, V6" - They have to put this engine in the 2008 IS250!
Last edited by gsrthomas; 09-17-06 at 05:10 PM.
#66
they will not put the engine in the 250.. the 250 had millions of dollars spent on developing its own engine..
if anything.. they will improve upon the 250's engine to produce more..
that 300 is just like the 300 they sell in china.. 228 hp.. and notice how they dont say "direct injected" ..
if anything.. they will improve upon the 250's engine to produce more..
that 300 is just like the 300 they sell in china.. 228 hp.. and notice how they dont say "direct injected" ..
#67
they will not put the engine in the 250.. the 250 had millions of dollars spent on developing its own engine..
if anything.. they will improve upon the 250's engine to produce more..
that 300 is just like the 300 they sell in china.. 228 hp.. and notice how they dont say "direct injected" ..
if anything.. they will improve upon the 250's engine to produce more..
that 300 is just like the 300 they sell in china.. 228 hp.. and notice how they dont say "direct injected" ..
#68
they will not put the engine in the 250.. the 250 had millions of dollars spent on developing its own engine..
if anything.. they will improve upon the 250's engine to produce more..
that 300 is just like the 300 they sell in china.. 228 hp.. and notice how they dont say "direct injected" ..
if anything.. they will improve upon the 250's engine to produce more..
that 300 is just like the 300 they sell in china.. 228 hp.. and notice how they dont say "direct injected" ..
#69
and here is another one to help clear things up:
the 2006 gs300 has a 3.0 FSE V6 (not I6)!!!! it lasted only one yr in america, got replaced for 2007 by the 3.5 FSE V6 found in the is350. so it IS easily possible that after 2 yrs, the 2.5 FSE V6 could be dropped in america.
the 2006 gs300 has a 3.0 FSE V6 (not I6)!!!! it lasted only one yr in america, got replaced for 2007 by the 3.5 FSE V6 found in the is350. so it IS easily possible that after 2 yrs, the 2.5 FSE V6 could be dropped in america.
#70
IS220d
Yes, the IS 220d is sold all over Europe, and it is selling better than the IS250.
However Lexus had problems with early models, regarding gas mileage and electronic problems, injectors had to be changed with new type and ECU reprogrammed. But the IS220d still gets mixed feelings, gear ratio either with Pack models (long) or Sport Package (short) is not fully usable, the IS220d does not comme with an Auto box and it should, but the good point is that the price tag is quite competitive with german cars (which is not the case for the IS250) the Pack version (quite basic) is priced at €31.300.
To be a winner, the IS220d should have a 6 cylinder diesel engine and an auto box.
However Lexus had problems with early models, regarding gas mileage and electronic problems, injectors had to be changed with new type and ECU reprogrammed. But the IS220d still gets mixed feelings, gear ratio either with Pack models (long) or Sport Package (short) is not fully usable, the IS220d does not comme with an Auto box and it should, but the good point is that the price tag is quite competitive with german cars (which is not the case for the IS250) the Pack version (quite basic) is priced at €31.300.
To be a winner, the IS220d should have a 6 cylinder diesel engine and an auto box.
#71
Lexus has got to come up with a solution
they will not put the engine in the 250.. the 250 had millions of dollars spent on developing its own engine..
if anything.. they will improve upon the 250's engine to produce more..
that 300 is just like the 300 they sell in china.. 228 hp.. and notice how they dont say "direct injected" ..
if anything.. they will improve upon the 250's engine to produce more..
that 300 is just like the 300 they sell in china.. 228 hp.. and notice how they dont say "direct injected" ..
Lexus have multiple choices:
1) Drop the 2.5l and go for 3.0
2) Boost the power of the 2.5l up to 250 hp
3) Ask TTE to come up with a super charger kit for IS250
I would sign right away for a Gen² IS300 with 270 hp, (http://www.lexusoman.com/English/select/is.shtml).
#73
Agree. I still bought the car anyhow. If the IS 250 was engaging to drive (even just a little bit), I'd likely be singing a different tune. It has enough power for what I expect out of it, though. And when I was test driving cars, I found that the IS250 actually felt quicker on the lower end, and equally fast on the top end, than the first E90 325i drivetrain.
#74
The same website lists the GS300 at 245hp.
http://www.lexusoman.com/English/sel...fications.html
That suggests the V6 in the IS300 is an "enhanced version" with SAE rated at 270hp.
http://www.lexusoman.com/English/sel...fications.html
That suggests the V6 in the IS300 is an "enhanced version" with SAE rated at 270hp.
#75
What is 'net' power ?
The same website lists the GS300 at 245hp.
http://www.lexusoman.com/English/sel...fications.html
That suggests the V6 in the IS300 is an "enhanced version" with SAE rated at 270hp.
http://www.lexusoman.com/English/sel...fications.html
That suggests the V6 in the IS300 is an "enhanced version" with SAE rated at 270hp.
IS300 PREMIUM
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* 3.0 Litre, V6, DOHC, 24 Valve, 270 HP (228 HP- net)
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* 3.0 Litre, V6, DOHC, 24 Valve, 270 HP (228 HP- net)
Last edited by TED_FR; 09-18-06 at 09:51 AM.