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Old 11-09-06, 10:12 PM
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Default Fake grill by fog lights

It surprises me someone hasn't cut that out and made a real grill and duct cool air either to the brakes or to the bottom of air box. Thoughts?

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the ducts are already there for the brakes. i dunno about the box though.. it already gets air form the outside
Old 11-09-06, 11:23 PM
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i was wondering the same thing this weekend after a fresh wash. perhaps after model year # 2 there will be enough demand for such a creative product.
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Originally Posted by Larrym9681
It surprises me someone hasn't cut that out and made a real grill and duct cool air either to the brakes or to the bottom of air box. Thoughts?

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There are already brake coolers on the car.
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Originally Posted by Wests
There are already brake coolers on the car.
Are the small grills by the fog lights fake? I think so but haven't removed the under hood covers to inspect. If so it would be easy to remove the fake cover, cut a hole, make a real grill and cut a couple of holes in air box and run ducts to it. The more cool outside air the better. Someone care to inspect and try it???

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you should
Old 11-10-06, 05:35 PM
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Originally Posted by ihkskim
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Old 11-10-06, 06:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Larrym9681


Aloha
if yo look inside the center grille.. each end has a duct that goes towards the brakes. so ducts are necessary.. as for intake i guess you can make one if you have an aftermarket intake.. stock intake no
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Despite popular culture and magazines, the coolest air isn't anywhere near the ground. Take some measurements for yourself on a hot day over black asphalt. The coolest air is nowhere near the pavement. Pulling in air less than a foot off the pavement only works in places where the roads are not black and the ambient temperature is so cool it wouldn't matter anyway.

Having spent a considerable amount of time working on aircraft parked on both concrete and asphalt, it's painfully obvious to me that the air at 3 feet off the surface is a lot cooler than the air at 6 - 12" is. If you look at motorsports where small differences in power make big differences in results, you always see the engine air intakes well above ground level. It's not for fashion.
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Originally Posted by lobuxracer
Despite popular culture and magazines, the coolest air isn't anywhere near the ground. Take some measurements for yourself on a hot day over black asphalt. The coolest air is nowhere near the pavement. Pulling in air less than a foot off the pavement only works in places where the roads are not black and the ambient temperature is so cool it wouldn't matter anyway.

Having spent a considerable amount of time working on aircraft parked on both concrete and asphalt, it's painfully obvious to me that the air at 3 feet off the surface is a lot cooler than the air at 6 - 12" is. If you look at motorsports where small differences in power make big differences in results, you always see the engine air intakes well above ground level. It's not for fashion.
Thanks for the info, good reading. When I had my Corvette with the air intake near the road I hooked up an electronic thermometer that would record two readings. I placed one sensor in the intake near the road and the other under the hood. Up until about 30 MPH it was cooler air from the outside air even though it was close to the road. After 30 MPH there was no difference. Remember this is Hawaii where it never gets cold.

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Originally Posted by lobuxracer
If you look at motorsports where small differences in power make big differences in results, you always see the engine air intakes well above ground level. It's not for fashion.
This is usually because the area 6-12" above ground is reserved for more important items, like wings, underbody venturis, etc. Ground effect aero can contribute (in cases of F1 and the likes) up to 70% of the total downforce on a racecar. But your point is valid too . Its also impressive to see how small the openings are, especially in F1, where the size of the air intake is actually unrestricted. You get some serious ram air effects at 180+mph....
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Another reason not to suck in air that close to the ground, is you're going to suck in more water when it rains!
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