Why all of the negativity on BBK's?
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Can't we all just mod our cars to our own hearts and wallets desires? Who cares what others think, if you're modding for others appraisal, then you should rethink what you're doing.
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I do get the whole argument about heat capacity, but I would try ducting and alternate pads first. It's a lot cheaper to blow air through the stock disc than it is to put on aftermarket discs, calipers, and pads. If it still cooks the pads with the ducts, then you need to consider the big bucks.
One other thing - cryo treating the rotors seems to be pretty useful for rotor life according to some of the people I know. I've never done it because I've always used OEM rotors and the cost differential vs. service life is about equal. But if I were paying $300+ per rotor, I'd be cryo treating them for sure.
One other thing - cryo treating the rotors seems to be pretty useful for rotor life according to some of the people I know. I've never done it because I've always used OEM rotors and the cost differential vs. service life is about equal. But if I were paying $300+ per rotor, I'd be cryo treating them for sure.
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I do get the whole argument about heat capacity, but I would try ducting and alternate pads first. It's a lot cheaper to blow air through the stock disc than it is to put on aftermarket discs, calipers, and pads. If it still cooks the pads with the ducts, then you need to consider the big bucks.
If the situation had been different (and I took out another or several cars out with me) when my brakes faded, I'm sure my insurance company would have dropped me like a bad habit and that I would have an immensely hard time getting new coverage, not to mention what the new premiums would be...
If you're a novice to intermediate driver and the course is not particularly brutal on your brakes, the stockers (with some upgrades) will most likely be fine. I just see a BBK as insurance. It's expensive insurance, no doubt, but it will be the best $ you spent if it saves you from getting into an accident and getting hurt.
One other thing - cryo treating the rotors seems to be pretty useful for rotor life according to some of the people I know. I've never done it because I've always used OEM rotors and the cost differential vs. service life is about equal. But if I were paying $300+ per rotor, I'd be cryo treating them for sure.
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Someone mentioned that people are moddifying the cars by adding 18" and up rims with the sacrifice of performance etc. etc.
Question, why are manufactures going to larger diameter rims for the OEM choice? lexus, Bmw, mercedes etc all run 18" and larger rims by design. Is there any performance value or is it more for marketing esthetics?
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exactly.......
Someone mentioned that people are moddifying the cars by adding 18" and up rims with the sacrifice of performance etc. etc.
Question, why are manufactures going to larger diameter rims for the OEM choice? lexus, Bmw, mercedes etc all run 18" and larger rims by design. Is there any performance value or is it more for marketing esthetics?
Someone mentioned that people are moddifying the cars by adding 18" and up rims with the sacrifice of performance etc. etc.
Question, why are manufactures going to larger diameter rims for the OEM choice? lexus, Bmw, mercedes etc all run 18" and larger rims by design. Is there any performance value or is it more for marketing esthetics?
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yes, i was aware of all that, but I was refering the people that neigh say the people that mod the cars vs. what the manufacture has done at the factory. Basically if putting 18,19's are bad why are they doing it.........
anything above 19"s for a car this size is pushing it before it looks out of proportion, let alone has zero performance value......
anything above 19"s for a car this size is pushing it before it looks out of proportion, let alone has zero performance value......
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