nupe1911

I just wanted to know if you void your warranty after installing aftermarket suspensions like a Eibach Pro Kit or Tein Springs? I was wondering this because some many members have aftermarket suspensions and I plan to drop my soon to be IS350 also. Sorry if this question has been posted before

SilverLexo

Yes it will void the warranty of your stock suspension which wont be on your car anymore. Anything that they will claim that voided the warranty has to be proven that it was a result of the modifcation of your car. Say you drop your lex like 3.5 inches and you rub a hole in your oil pan...no dice on getting that thing taken care of through warranty. Basic things cant be refused though.

Soda

Borat's correct.

Gernby

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No warranty would cover rubbing holes in an oil pan regardless of mods. Adding aftermarket springs would certainly void the warranty on bushings, wheel bearings, hubs, shocks, wheels, alignment, squeaks, and rattles, and possibly CV joints, tie rods, steering rack, etc.

nupe1911

So Gernby, have you had any problems with your Eibach Pro-Kit installed

Gernby

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The Pro-Kit isn't very agressive at all, so it shouldn't cause any significant wear on any of the suspension components. I installed the springs myself, and haven't had any problems since (~4K miles).

I had JIC FLT-A2's on my previous car (Honda S2000), and they may have increased the wear on my rear bearings. I had to replace them about every 40K miles.

kilo6_one

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i have seen dealers sell the prokit on alot of cars, like Gernby said its not an aggressive drop, i have had mine on for about the same duration, and have not had a single issue.
google mossmagnussen act. its your best freind if you plan to do any alterations to your car. What i think is funny is how the dealer can do the same type of moddifications and say that nothing could happen, but ifyou mention it they act like your car will fall apart. It comes down to money IMO, if the dealer does not rape you (like 400.00 to install springs) then it will void your warranty and your car will implode.

Bichon

When you do, make sure you actually read the Magnusson Moss act, not a possibly biased interpretation of it by a third party vendor or trade association. The applicable section of the act referenced by third party sellers was enacted to prevent tie-in sales of replacement parts, e.g., a manufacturer can't require that you buy their oil filters instead of an equivalent replacement from a company like Fram or Purolator, to keep the warranty in force. It was not intended to protect people who replace working original parts with high performance replacements in order to boost performance; in particular, I don't see it applying to those remaining parts that the modification may stress beyond their original design.

kilo6_one

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good point...... it was not ment to give out a free pass to do what you like, its more of a tool, and source of knowlege so that the dealer cannot tell you "oh, you have a lowered car" we can not do your scheduled maintance.
sorry for the confusion.

slowandlow

actuley the m-m-act states that the auto would have to prove that what you did cauesed the problem and sence lowering the car the wheel travel will be with in normal travel. but i think like the cv might have a problem with

Gernby

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I'll have what he's having... :doper: LOL

In truth, the dealer can deny any claim he thinks he can get away with, and they often do. Quite often, they will deny a claim because they expect you won't pursue it any further. I don't know who would have the burden of proof in court, but fighting it in court is often too expensive to deal with.

There are many cases on the Honda forums where legitimate warranty claims were denied for new engines, and they took years and several thousands in legal expenses to resolve.

Bichon

Okay here is the act: http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/h..._15_10_50.html

Please show me where it says that the manufacturer has to prove that what you did caused the problem.

Gernby

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What stance are you taking? I'm not trying to be argumentative, but it isn't totally clear. If you are saying that Lexus can deny warranty on defective shocks due to aftermarket lowering springs, then I agree. If you are saying that Lexus can deny warranty coverage on a blown engine due to aftermarket lowering springs, then I disagree.

kilo6_one

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here we go........

nupe1911

thanks for the advice fellas