F For Fast!
12-04-06, 10:47 AM
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My opinion:
It's not about how fast you can shift. It's about being in the gear that you want to be in (and when you want to be in it), rather than the gear the car wants you to be in. You also don't get the parasitic power loss from a manual transmission that you do with a superslushiefantasic automatic transmission, because the manual is basically a direct drive setup once the clutch is fully engaged (assuming no major slippage), whereas the superslushiefantasic automatic transmission slips, and slips, and slips until you get into top gear, and the torque convertor locks up.
I would say, without hesitation, that it does have to be a manual or SMG-type manual to be a sport car. No question.
It's not about how fast you can shift. It's about being in the gear that you want to be in (and when you want to be in it), rather than the gear the car wants you to be in. You also don't get the parasitic power loss from a manual transmission that you do with a superslushiefantasic automatic transmission, because the manual is basically a direct drive setup once the clutch is fully engaged (assuming no major slippage), whereas the superslushiefantasic automatic transmission slips, and slips, and slips until you get into top gear, and the torque convertor locks up.
I would say, without hesitation, that it does have to be a manual or SMG-type manual to be a sport car. No question.
Even if it is an automatic won't gearing play a major impact? Sure being able to control your RPMS is great but the best thing about having an automatic is being consistent. Sure people may complain about skill.... and things of this nature but the saying still holds true when it comes to racing..
BRING WHAT YOU BROUGHT!!!
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12-04-06, 10:48 AM
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I don't think that I am entirely incorrect but didn't a few old school muscle cars during the 50's and 60's have like 3 speed autos that kicked butt?
Even if it is an automatic won't gearing play a major impact? Sure being able to control your RPMS and gearing is great but the best thing about having an automatic is being consistent. Sure people may complain about skill.... and this of nature but the saying still holds true when it comes to racing..
BRING WHAT YOU BROUGHT!!!
Even if it is an automatic won't gearing play a major impact? Sure being able to control your RPMS and gearing is great but the best thing about having an automatic is being consistent. Sure people may complain about skill.... and this of nature but the saying still holds true when it comes to racing..
BRING WHAT YOU BROUGHT!!!
12-04-06, 11:58 AM
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I thought it meant flagship.. that doesnt sound right. Nor does LRD (Lexus Racing Development)..or Lextech. LexSpeed. LOPAR.hehe..LMG..LMS..LexusART
12-04-06, 12:15 PM
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I don't think the brand name flows very well..but thats just coming from one person with a marketing & business background. what do i know. Nor does the logo look very appealing..but what we're seeing is simply on paper and on a screen, it might grow on me if I were to see it in person
12-04-06, 12:26 PM
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I never found anything particularly appealing about the M///, AMG or S logo's on their cars either 
It's the cars themselves that makes the logo appealing rather than the other way round IMO . . .
It's the cars themselves that makes the logo appealing rather than the other way round IMO . . .
12-04-06, 12:41 PM
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it's kinda a no brainer going straight... let's hope that people in auto can conistently go straight... when you enter a corner really hard.. you want your brakes and suspension... you won't need speed or power until you exit the corner...
12-04-06, 12:56 PM
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Well from a marketing stand point..you don't want a brand to rub the consumer the wrong way. Brand names and logo's are created to evoke feelings and images, also it aids in brand recognition... this has everything to do with what the product stands for. So what does the F make you feel?..what type of images come to mind? There really isn't much we can say about it yet, because we havent experienced a product with the F moniker. But we have touched, smelled, driven a product with the AMG, S, and M labels on them...we can associate them with certain feelings and images. My point is that branding, positioning of brand, logos etc have a huge impact on how one feels about a product, how one makes purchasing decisions. Simply the F on paper rubs me the wrong way, and it seems to be bothering others as well. But like I said, everything we're seeing is simply on paper...put it on an actual product and things will change for certain
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12-04-06, 01:04 PM
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What I was saying is that I don't find the AMG & M/// logo's to be anything special, they wouldn't have become an appealing logo if the cars weren't any good for what's it's designed to be. And how special does a S6 or RS6 sound really . . .
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