IS250 transmission/clutch/engine problem
01-08-09, 02:17 PM
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Looks like the dealer is quoting me $1,800 for the flywheel. How could they know that it needs a new flywheel, before they have taken anything apart? I may try some local shops, and see if I can get a better price. Hopefully, they may be able to machine the flywheel, instead of replacing it. Even thou the car is new to me, it has 47,000 miles on it. Either the previous driver was really hard on the clutch, or it is a piece of crap... or both.
01-15-09, 09:50 AM
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Hi all, I have the SAME PROBLEM as well
guess I see this problem often after i did some research !!
Below are my questions post at some other Lexus owners club:
here's the link to it, hope it will help to the others.
http://us.lexusownersclub.com/forums...howtopic=54421
(Long story, please read through, PS at the Bottom)
Don't know if anyone here w/ a Manual 250 had any FlyWheel or Transmission problem before, I really need some helpping hands right now or they will charge me $ 3000 USD
(for the damage thats I'm pretty sure its not done by me, but it should be under the warrenty), and I only had this car for only a little more than 1 year, thanks so much !!
** Plus, It's NOT a LEASE CAR, I bought this car **
I purchased a 2007 IS 250 manual about 1 year & 3 mon ago, it has 15,000 miles on it,
for the past couple of month, when I shift from lower to higher gear and sometimes downshifting,
there's a wierd metal clicking noise coming out from maybe the transmission.
At first, it only happens once in a long while, but after 2 / 3 month, it happens more often
So I broght my car back into the dealership to have a check up & also for the 15,000 miles service.
During the road test with the technician, he heard the noise and said it should be the transmission,
and he says it's under the warrenty, so they will replaced me a brand new one. (that's really cool)
But after 3 days, the Manager of Service Dept. called and said :
" The transmission is fine, it's the FLYING WHEEL thats busted,
and it's not under warrenty cuz it's from driving TOO aggressively "
Than he told me if I want to file complains, call 1800 25 LEXUS, there's not much they can do.
after that, I did some search on-line for a bit
and also asked some of my fd who are technician them-self or owners of a shop
They're all surprise and all of them said
" It's not easy to break a Manual Transmission or the Flywheel, it should last ".
Yeah, that's what I remember too, since I used to owned 4 StickShift Cars before too,
so, its not that I can't drive a stick and broke my own flywheel or transmission !
And I barely drive my car, most likely ONLY School & Home, thats about 50 miles round trip.
plus my School is in Hollywood, ALWAYS TRAFFIC, how can I go crazy on the car
(1st or 2nd gear all the way..haha),
Plus by adding up the distance from home to school / school to home = about 50 miles (both way)
5 days a week (sometimes have classes at night, so need to go twice a day + some weekends), thats about Avg. 25 school days in a month
So, 50 miles / day (only count 1 round trip) x 25 days/month x 9 month of school
that's the Total of 11,250 miles (not including when I need to go 2 times a day and that happens quite often)
and my car only have 15,000 miles on it now.
Sorry, enough of the complainings, here are the questions:
1. Is the Fly Wheel that easy to break down and how ?
2. What about their Transmission ?
3. If driving too aggressively, would it damage the transmission as well ? which first ?
3. Is the Transmission in the IS 250 using the same trans with 1 of the Toyota's RWD Truck ?
4. Is the Fly Wheel under warrenty ? (In the manual says it is but the Manager told me it's me causing this, so it's not)
5. What I need to prepare when I file complain to LEXUS USA FACTORY ?
PS:
If showing them my class schedual hours for the past 9~10 month (Always in Traffic Hour) & my plane tickets (since I've been flying out of country 7 times for the past 1.5 year, adds up about total of 2~3 month not in the US), I know it doesn't prooved that my driving behavior, but does showing all these help ??
guess I see this problem often after i did some research !!
Below are my questions post at some other Lexus owners club:
here's the link to it, hope it will help to the others.
http://us.lexusownersclub.com/forums...howtopic=54421
(Long story, please read through, PS at the Bottom)
Don't know if anyone here w/ a Manual 250 had any FlyWheel or Transmission problem before, I really need some helpping hands right now or they will charge me $ 3000 USD
(for the damage thats I'm pretty sure its not done by me, but it should be under the warrenty), and I only had this car for only a little more than 1 year, thanks so much !!
** Plus, It's NOT a LEASE CAR, I bought this car **
I purchased a 2007 IS 250 manual about 1 year & 3 mon ago, it has 15,000 miles on it,
for the past couple of month, when I shift from lower to higher gear and sometimes downshifting,
there's a wierd metal clicking noise coming out from maybe the transmission.
At first, it only happens once in a long while, but after 2 / 3 month, it happens more often
So I broght my car back into the dealership to have a check up & also for the 15,000 miles service.
During the road test with the technician, he heard the noise and said it should be the transmission,
and he says it's under the warrenty, so they will replaced me a brand new one. (that's really cool)
But after 3 days, the Manager of Service Dept. called and said :
" The transmission is fine, it's the FLYING WHEEL thats busted,
and it's not under warrenty cuz it's from driving TOO aggressively "
Than he told me if I want to file complains, call 1800 25 LEXUS, there's not much they can do.
after that, I did some search on-line for a bit
and also asked some of my fd who are technician them-self or owners of a shop
They're all surprise and all of them said
" It's not easy to break a Manual Transmission or the Flywheel, it should last ".
Yeah, that's what I remember too, since I used to owned 4 StickShift Cars before too,
so, its not that I can't drive a stick and broke my own flywheel or transmission !
And I barely drive my car, most likely ONLY School & Home, thats about 50 miles round trip.
plus my School is in Hollywood, ALWAYS TRAFFIC, how can I go crazy on the car
(1st or 2nd gear all the way..haha),
Plus by adding up the distance from home to school / school to home = about 50 miles (both way)
5 days a week (sometimes have classes at night, so need to go twice a day + some weekends), thats about Avg. 25 school days in a month
So, 50 miles / day (only count 1 round trip) x 25 days/month x 9 month of school
that's the Total of 11,250 miles (not including when I need to go 2 times a day and that happens quite often)
and my car only have 15,000 miles on it now.
Sorry, enough of the complainings, here are the questions:
1. Is the Fly Wheel that easy to break down and how ?
2. What about their Transmission ?
3. If driving too aggressively, would it damage the transmission as well ? which first ?
3. Is the Transmission in the IS 250 using the same trans with 1 of the Toyota's RWD Truck ?
4. Is the Fly Wheel under warrenty ? (In the manual says it is but the Manager told me it's me causing this, so it's not)
5. What I need to prepare when I file complain to LEXUS USA FACTORY ?
PS:
If showing them my class schedual hours for the past 9~10 month (Always in Traffic Hour) & my plane tickets (since I've been flying out of country 7 times for the past 1.5 year, adds up about total of 2~3 month not in the US), I know it doesn't prooved that my driving behavior, but does showing all these help ??
01-15-09, 10:17 AM
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the sound its very noticeable, not u have to listen carefully
01-15-09, 10:20 AM
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Just wondering which Lexus Dealer you went to? I've bought two Lexus from DVN and never had problems with them or the cars. I have the 07 250MT as well and did not have the issues you mentioned.
investment wise, i looked at the lease rate for BMW, even with muliple security deposit the rate was still 6%, compared to 3.1% at lexus. Reason why i went with the IS over the 3.
anyways, enjoy your new bimmer!
investment wise, i looked at the lease rate for BMW, even with muliple security deposit the rate was still 6%, compared to 3.1% at lexus. Reason why i went with the IS over the 3.
anyways, enjoy your new bimmer!
Humm, u know that u have or using the same name with the Service Dept. Manager
from Longo Lexus
01-15-09, 10:25 AM
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VutIS250, I will be more than happy and cooperative if we can get a high number to write a letter and contact corporate...
IS250 M owners... please co-sign this thread if you are willing to participate in contacting corporate regarding this issue!!!
If we get enough people, I can write a letter with everyones help and hopefully something can happen.
IS250 M owners... please co-sign this thread if you are willing to participate in contacting corporate regarding this issue!!!
If we get enough people, I can write a letter with everyones help and hopefully something can happen.
01-15-09, 10:52 AM
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Im really GLAD that I found this site as well
Thought I was just an unlucky one, guess I was wrong
I even found a member/owner who bought his car at the same dealership
Just hope the best for all the other members that had the same issue
Thought I was just an unlucky one, guess I was wrong
I even found a member/owner who bought his car at the same dealership
Just hope the best for all the other members that had the same issue
01-15-09, 02:56 PM
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OEM Supra flywheels failed this way in about 40k miles or so. The IS250 flywheel looks very similar to the Supra flywheel in design. The springs in it are intended to make it quieter, but when the springs break (and they always do), it gets REALLY noisy. I thought the pickup next to me had a failing muffler when the flywheel in my Supra went bad.
It's really unfortunate the price is astronomical for the flywheel from Lexus. I'd be calling up Fidanza about a custom unit if it were my problem.
It's really unfortunate the price is astronomical for the flywheel from Lexus. I'd be calling up Fidanza about a custom unit if it were my problem.
01-15-09, 03:31 PM
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During the road test with the technician, he heard the noise and said it should be the transmission,
and he says it's under the warrenty, so they will replaced me a brand new one. (that's really cool)
But after 3 days, the Manager of Service Dept. called and said :
" The transmission is fine, it's the FLYING WHEEL thats busted,
and it's not under warrenty cuz it's from driving TOO aggressively "
Than he told me if I want to file complains, call 1800 25 LEXUS, there's not much they can do.
and he says it's under the warrenty, so they will replaced me a brand new one. (that's really cool)
But after 3 days, the Manager of Service Dept. called and said :
" The transmission is fine, it's the FLYING WHEEL thats busted,
and it's not under warrenty cuz it's from driving TOO aggressively "
Than he told me if I want to file complains, call 1800 25 LEXUS, there's not much they can do.
good luck and let us know the outcome....
01-15-09, 03:58 PM
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OEM Supra flywheels failed this way in about 40k miles or so. The IS250 flywheel looks very similar to the Supra flywheel in design. The springs in it are intended to make it quieter, but when the springs break (and they always do), it gets REALLY noisy. I thought the pickup next to me had a failing muffler when the flywheel in my Supra went bad.
It's really unfortunate the price is astronomical for the flywheel from Lexus. I'd be calling up Fidanza about a custom unit if it were my problem.
It's really unfortunate the price is astronomical for the flywheel from Lexus. I'd be calling up Fidanza about a custom unit if it were my problem.
its either using X-runner Tranny or Supra
is it really true ??
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01-15-09, 06:34 PM
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01-20-09, 05:02 PM
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i have 06 IS250 MT also with 24000 miles
and here is my story
i start noticing my gears slipping around oct. 2008 specially 2nd 3rd because i only drive maybe 4 miles locally at the most a day
so i called santa monica lexus to ask if replacing clutch was under warranty and they were very rude saying it's wear and tare item and they hung up on me. so few days passed and gear slipping are getting worst every gear so i called Lexus Corp. for some help and they told me to get it check at any dealer and they'll follow up on it.
so dec 4th i made appointment at glendale lexus and show the service advisor wat's going on with everything including TSIB brake dust problem also.
few days pass got a call from Lexus Corp. telling me it's wear and tare item and it might be my driving habit so they won't cover under warranty but they have "Lexus' goodwill offer to cover 25% of the repair.
so i got mad and frostrated, picked up my car and never spoke with them.
now my car is just sitting at home, can't drive it until i solve this problem because it's not catching gear at all.
any help here??
and here is my story
i start noticing my gears slipping around oct. 2008 specially 2nd 3rd because i only drive maybe 4 miles locally at the most a day
so i called santa monica lexus to ask if replacing clutch was under warranty and they were very rude saying it's wear and tare item and they hung up on me. so few days passed and gear slipping are getting worst every gear so i called Lexus Corp. for some help and they told me to get it check at any dealer and they'll follow up on it.
so dec 4th i made appointment at glendale lexus and show the service advisor wat's going on with everything including TSIB brake dust problem also.
few days pass got a call from Lexus Corp. telling me it's wear and tare item and it might be my driving habit so they won't cover under warranty but they have "Lexus' goodwill offer to cover 25% of the repair.
so i got mad and frostrated, picked up my car and never spoke with them.
now my car is just sitting at home, can't drive it until i solve this problem because it's not catching gear at all.
any help here??
01-20-09, 05:10 PM
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Sounds like you need a new clutch.