Road&Track:1. IS 350 2. TL Type-S 3. G35 Sport (merged threads)
#106
Ok, you go to the Lexus website and "Build" your IS. Find where you can add NAV as a standalone option (hint it MIGHT be possible if you can find the right zip - but I doubt it).
Edit: I found the NAV in 94598 as part of a package that costs only $5,435 (better than the $8K here in the midwest, but still not a stand alone option).
Edit: I found the NAV in 94598 as part of a package that costs only $5,435 (better than the $8K here in the midwest, but still not a stand alone option).
#107
Amazing the amount of "jumping on and off the train" goes on in regards to [x] publications' reviews. One minute R&T is the "only relevant" magazine - the next it's a sell-out to Lexus.
Quite entertaining actually - and the comparison w/the 335i should be just as interesting.
Quite entertaining actually - and the comparison w/the 335i should be just as interesting.
#108
Amazing the amount of "jumping on and off the train" goes on in regards to [x] publications' reviews. One minute R&T is the "only relevant" magazine - the next it's a sell-out to Lexus.
Quite entertaining actually - and the comparison w/the 335i should be just as interesting.
Quite entertaining actually - and the comparison w/the 335i should be just as interesting.
Whether a Lexus wins a review or comparison or not, does not change my opinion of these publications.
I already know what the IS350 is and isn't capable of, and I don't need a magazine to tell me that.
#109
Funny you have problems with this comparison, where a Lexus does good, yet have no problems with the horribly flawed C & D luxury sedan comparison, where the LS460L placed last.
Like BMW much
Really, no need to go off topic. Nobody is discussing the 3 Series here. You can make a seperate thread for all the 3 Series lovers on this forum .
The point of discussion was here is yet another review which gives the IS350 the credit it deserves, and this coming from Road & Track of all magazines.
Like BMW much
Really, no need to go off topic. Nobody is discussing the 3 Series here. You can make a seperate thread for all the 3 Series lovers on this forum .
The point of discussion was here is yet another review which gives the IS350 the credit it deserves, and this coming from Road & Track of all magazines.
#110
To change the subject can anyone verify if the suspensio was changed for 07 or if the improved handling is coming from the VDIM being able to be shutoff. I havent heard anything about suspension but hopefully Lexus upgrades to monotube shocks instead of twin tube.
#111
My opinion of R & T as well as C & D remains unchanged. I typically do not like them, and C & D especially has been known to publish many flawed reviews and comparisons. Some of C & D's reviews are downright questionable.
Whether a Lexus wins a review or comparison or not, does not change my opinion of these publications.
I already know what the IS350 is and isn't capable of, and I don't need a magazine to tell me that.
Whether a Lexus wins a review or comparison or not, does not change my opinion of these publications.
I already know what the IS350 is and isn't capable of, and I don't need a magazine to tell me that.
Last edited by MLevinson; 12-27-06 at 01:08 PM.
#112
Same here. I take what those guys say with a big hunk of salt. What bothers me is a lot of people will compare and rate cars solely on what others say, feel, think about it. The forums are a good example of this, when people compare vehicles on the forums they always bring up what this and that magazine said or did, never is it based on data that they have compiled. Show me drag times that you got at the track, show me videos, pictures. Don't show me what other people did..I'm not saying they're right or wrong, I'm just saying it's coming from a source other than yourself
#113
Yes, the nannies can be switched off more easily on the '07s (a button, rather than a complicated sequence of brake pedal pushes)
#115
#116
My opinion of R & T as well as C & D remains unchanged. I typically do not like them, and C & D especially has been known to publish many flawed reviews and comparisons. Some of C & D's reviews are downright questionable.
Whether a Lexus wins a review or comparison or not, does not change my opinion of these publications.
I already know what the IS350 is and isn't capable of, and I don't need a magazine to tell me that.
Whether a Lexus wins a review or comparison or not, does not change my opinion of these publications.
I already know what the IS350 is and isn't capable of, and I don't need a magazine to tell me that.
#117
Same here. I take what those guys say with a big hunk of salt. What bothers me is a lot of people will compare and rate cars solely on what others say, feel, think about it. The forums are a good example of this, when people compare vehicles on the forums they always bring up what this and that magazine said or did, never is it based on data that they have compiled. Show me drag times that you got at the track, show me videos, pictures. Don't show me what other people did..I'm not saying they're right or wrong, I'm just saying it's coming from a source other than yourself
Every car has +/- and every car is going to be either a winner or looser in comparison tests. Why not discuss the results w/facts instead of sniping...?
IE:
- Why is it impossible to believe that R&T made a 4.9 0-60…? The T/W ratio of the IS350 is correct to [theoretically] achieve this.
- Why is hard to believe that the IS350 handles well especially w/the nannies turned off..? The IS350 sure has all the right suspension components to do so.
Last edited by MLevinson; 12-27-06 at 05:11 PM.
#120
Flawed comparisons? Flawed because you don't agree with them? C&D has always been truthful in admitting they like a car that appeals to the "driver" - thus their name - Car and DRIVER. You may not be interested in how a car "drives" and thus C&D probably does not appeal to you - no problem, but don't call their reviews flawed.