IS350 slower than these cheaper cars?
02-08-07, 08:08 AM
#46
Here is my dull design cars- I guess I should sell it because according to you guys, its perfect for a 14 year old-
And wait- it is 40 years old- shouldnt it have blown up by now?
Man Im selling it TODAY!! thanks for pointing me in the right direction-
I mean look at this new Ford- is this not the most boring design you ever saw?
02-08-07, 08:10 AM
#47
I guess you dont know much about DSMs. Here is some info on FPs turbos. Of course you need supporting fuel mods etc. But you wont have to do much engine work(just some ARP headstuds) to get an aweful lot of power. you may want a shatter shield for the tranny
from the website
Dyno and quarter mile performance was shown to be excellent at the opposite end of the spectrum in the well prepared test vehicles of David Buschur and Curt Brown. These two cars showed ¼ mile ET in the 10.50-10.90 second range with speed in the 127-129mph range. Dyno results from these test vehicles showed power to be in the 420-450whp range(compared to 245 for the stock EVO). Dyno graphs for these cars are also shown to demonstrate the full potential of the EVOGreen Model turbocharger.
Here is the Red model.
WTF is a Red?
The Red model, much like it's little Green brother, is a Mitsu/Garrett hybrid. The Red combines a modified TD06 compressor housing and 8cm2 turbine housing with a clipped TD06H turbine wheel and a big *** Garrett compressor wheel. Don't ask us what it is, we won't tell you.
Who's your daddy?
The Red has proven to be a major contender among the ranks of the fastest DSMs in the world. Pruven Performance went 9.90 @ 142mph on an off the shelf Red turbo, Curt Brown has run a best of 9.87 @ 145.7 with his FPRed model turbocharger, and Dale Nardozzi has run 10.275 @ 132.75mph using an FPRed in his VR4 Galant! All these were WITHOUT NITROUS
from the website
Dyno and quarter mile performance was shown to be excellent at the opposite end of the spectrum in the well prepared test vehicles of David Buschur and Curt Brown. These two cars showed ¼ mile ET in the 10.50-10.90 second range with speed in the 127-129mph range. Dyno results from these test vehicles showed power to be in the 420-450whp range(compared to 245 for the stock EVO). Dyno graphs for these cars are also shown to demonstrate the full potential of the EVOGreen Model turbocharger.
Here is the Red model.
WTF is a Red?
The Red model, much like it's little Green brother, is a Mitsu/Garrett hybrid. The Red combines a modified TD06 compressor housing and 8cm2 turbine housing with a clipped TD06H turbine wheel and a big *** Garrett compressor wheel. Don't ask us what it is, we won't tell you.
Who's your daddy?
The Red has proven to be a major contender among the ranks of the fastest DSMs in the world. Pruven Performance went 9.90 @ 142mph on an off the shelf Red turbo, Curt Brown has run a best of 9.87 @ 145.7 with his FPRed model turbocharger, and Dale Nardozzi has run 10.275 @ 132.75mph using an FPRed in his VR4 Galant! All these were WITHOUT NITROUS
02-08-07, 08:28 AM
#48
The stock Z06 runs the QM at 12.3@116MPH
Here are some Stock turbo EVOs
12.2@112.7
http://www.sportcompactcarweb.com/fe...vishnu_tuning/
12.1@112.6
http://www.sportcompactcarweb.com/fe...s_engineering/
Here are some Stock turbo EVOs
12.2@112.7
http://www.sportcompactcarweb.com/fe...vishnu_tuning/
12.1@112.6
http://www.sportcompactcarweb.com/fe...s_engineering/
02-08-07, 08:43 AM
#49
Those cars would destroy Z06's. In my above post, I gave examples of EVOs with stock turbos and few mods that could also take down a stock Z06.
Look at the EVOs driving around, probably 50% or more are modded. Look at the Z06s... most are stock, and you will not see many Daily driver Z06s on Drag Radials on the street.
Daily driven Evo with less than 4K in mods can take down a Z06 that costs double. The Z06 is a great car, no doubt, but dont knock on the EVO... its one of the best performance cars in production.
02-08-07, 08:52 AM
#50
The sad part is... If I go to a ford dealership today, their best looking cars(Mustang, GT40) are cars that look like they were designed over 40 years ago.
If I want a classic MB or Porsche, I go to the classifieds or an auction. If I want a classic ford or pontiac, I can just go to the dealership.
02-08-07, 08:54 AM
#51
Lexus Champion
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: San Diego, CA
Posts: 2,553
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
The stock Z06 runs the QM at 12.3@116MPH
Here are some Stock turbo EVOs
12.2@112.7
http://www.sportcompactcarweb.com/fe...vishnu_tuning/
12.1@112.6
http://www.sportcompactcarweb.com/fe...s_engineering/
Here are some Stock turbo EVOs
12.2@112.7
http://www.sportcompactcarweb.com/fe...vishnu_tuning/
12.1@112.6
http://www.sportcompactcarweb.com/fe...s_engineering/
02-08-07, 09:06 AM
#52
The stock Z06 runs the QM at 12.3@116MPH
Here are some Stock turbo EVOs
12.2@112.7
http://www.sportcompactcarweb.com/fe...vishnu_tuning/
12.1@112.6
http://www.sportcompactcarweb.com/fe...s_engineering/
Here are some Stock turbo EVOs
12.2@112.7
http://www.sportcompactcarweb.com/fe...vishnu_tuning/
12.1@112.6
http://www.sportcompactcarweb.com/fe...s_engineering/
Umm Z06 with headers, tune, and a ported throttle body runs 10s-
Not only did it run 10s- its trapping at close to 20MPH faster-
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show....php?t=1365843
Stock Z06 with 100,000 mile warranty runs 11.6s-
Sorry, but the Z06 is a better car then an EVO in every single way
....except for back seats..LOL
02-08-07, 09:09 AM
#53
02-08-07, 10:20 AM
#54
Lexus Test Driver
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: MS
Posts: 1,445
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Do some of you guys live in a fantasy land of all Toyota/Lexus?
A friend of mine has an EVO I think 7 or 8.. Sure it has a stock Turbo but he has upgraded everything else in the car! I can give you a list of mods.. He pretty much kills everything due to traction off the line, but he'll be first to admit although his car is Mid to low 11's a C6 Z06 with like two upgrades compared to his 200000000 will smash his car.
Its realtively simple. There is no replacement for displacement.
LS7 > I4.. even with a turbo. Sorry, but you have to pay respect to that monstrosity.
C6 Z06 isn't that much heavier than an EVO. Torque will always be the winner in a straight line.
A friend of mine has an EVO I think 7 or 8.. Sure it has a stock Turbo but he has upgraded everything else in the car! I can give you a list of mods.. He pretty much kills everything due to traction off the line, but he'll be first to admit although his car is Mid to low 11's a C6 Z06 with like two upgrades compared to his 200000000 will smash his car.
Its realtively simple. There is no replacement for displacement.
LS7 > I4.. even with a turbo. Sorry, but you have to pay respect to that monstrosity.
C6 Z06 isn't that much heavier than an EVO. Torque will always be the winner in a straight line.
02-08-07, 10:49 AM
#57
Originally Posted by TQLLA3K
Buy an EVO+FP red(+support mods), you will be taking down carrera's, Z06's and vipers in no time. However, I dont think the porsche owner will be jealous.
Show me an EVO that gets traction and out runs a new C6 Z06.
Sorry to go off topic, but.. thats a stretch!!
Do some of you guys live in a fantasy land of all Toyota/Lexus?
A friend of mine has an EVO I think 7 or 8.. Sure it has a stock Turbo but he has upgraded everything else in the car! I can give you a list of mods.. He pretty much kills everything due to traction off the line, but he'll be first to admit although his car is Mid to low 11's a C6 Z06 with like two upgrades compared to his 200000000 will smash his car.
A friend of mine has an EVO I think 7 or 8.. Sure it has a stock Turbo but he has upgraded everything else in the car! I can give you a list of mods.. He pretty much kills everything due to traction off the line, but he'll be first to admit although his car is Mid to low 11's a C6 Z06 with like two upgrades compared to his 200000000 will smash his car.
Then you state that you have a friend with a stock turbo EVO ... which runs low/mid 11s, stock turbo. The low 11s is enough to beat a stock Z06... which your friend does... on his stock turbo.
SO AS I HAVE STATED AN EVO WITH AN FP RED CAN BEAT A Z06. And as others have stated an EVO with stock turbo can beat a completely stock Z06..... Which I didnt know it could do, but you have just stated that it can.
CASE CLOSED. MY ARGUEMENT HAS BEEN PROVEN. Why would you question the FP red turbo... when you have a friend that can beat stock Z06s with a stock turbo?
02-08-07, 11:06 AM
#58
----------------------------------
Hmmmmm, you questioned my first post which stated that an EVO with a Monsterous turbo(FP Red)+Fuel mods could beat a Z06... which it can.
Then you state that you have a friend with a stock turbo EVO ... which runs low/mid 11s, stock turbo. The low 11s is enough to beat a stock Z06... which your friend does... on his stock turbo.
SO AS I HAVE STATED AN EVO WITH AN FP RED CAN BEAT A Z06. And as others have stated an EVO with stock turbo can beat a completely stock Z06..... Which I didnt know it could do, but you have just stated that it can.
CASE CLOSED. MY ARGUEMENT HAS BEEN PROVEN. Why would you question the FP red turbo... when you have a friend that can beat stock Z06s with a stock turbo?
Hmmmmm, you questioned my first post which stated that an EVO with a Monsterous turbo(FP Red)+Fuel mods could beat a Z06... which it can.
Then you state that you have a friend with a stock turbo EVO ... which runs low/mid 11s, stock turbo. The low 11s is enough to beat a stock Z06... which your friend does... on his stock turbo.
SO AS I HAVE STATED AN EVO WITH AN FP RED CAN BEAT A Z06. And as others have stated an EVO with stock turbo can beat a completely stock Z06..... Which I didnt know it could do, but you have just stated that it can.
CASE CLOSED. MY ARGUEMENT HAS BEEN PROVEN. Why would you question the FP red turbo... when you have a friend that can beat stock Z06s with a stock turbo?
Your case is NOT proven until you show me proof of a an EVO running low 11s on the stock turbo-
because my uncles fathers mothers brothers son has a Z06 that runs 9s stock-
NO PROOF=RICE LIE
02-08-07, 11:17 AM
#59
I dont even know why I am trying to prove this, when my statement was an EVO+FP red could beat Z06s. And I definately dont know why I need to prove it to someone who thinks
40 year old design + New car = Bold moves
Last edited by tqlla3k; 02-08-07 at 11:25 AM.
02-08-07, 11:28 AM
#60
http://www.dragtimes.com/Mitsubishi-...slip-8454.html
I dont even know why I am trying to prove this, when my statement was an EVO+FP red could beat Z06s. And I definately dont know why I need to prove it to someone who thinks
40 year old design + New car = Bold moves
I dont even know why I am trying to prove this, when my statement was an EVO+FP red could beat Z06s. And I definately dont know why I need to prove it to someone who thinks
40 year old design + New car = Bold moves
excellent approach-
better yet- just change what you originally said-
you said a stock turbo EVO could beat a Z06- not that a EVO + FP red could-
even better yet change the subject to insult me about something I never said-
Ill take your change of subject and facts as a forfit-
I would suggest in the future that you dont openly blurt out statements you can't back up with any bit of proof-