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Old 02-07-07 | 07:55 PM
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yo, can you do nav hack on a lease? random question.
Old 02-07-07 | 08:05 PM
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Originally Posted by bagwell
also note when your lease is up -- act like you're going to turn the car in, even if you intend to buy it and keep it....you can negotiate the buyout price!
Is this true???
Old 02-07-07 | 08:15 PM
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Originally Posted by ron_is350
yo, can you do nav hack on a lease? random question.
Don't do any mods on a lease that you can't reverse before turning it in. The notable exception is window tint...the dealer doesn't particularly mind if you add value to their vehicle by tinting the windows. However, if you return it with hp adding stickers, bald tires on spinners, and a big aftermarket spoiler with a custom pink leather interior, you're in trouble.
Old 02-07-07 | 08:17 PM
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Originally Posted by IronPhoenX
Sounds so complicated to lease. Why don't you just buy it and not have to worry about anything?
You have much more to worry about if you buy the car. For one, you don't own it until you pay it off - the bank does. Many of us here get new cars every few years. Purchasing rather than leasing is really pointless in that situation, unless you're putting high miles on your vehicle. In that instance, you're losing your butt no matter what...lease or buy, if you're putting more than around 15k miles on your car annually its value will drop like a brick. In that instance, it usually makes more sense to buy a lightly used car.
Old 02-07-07 | 08:21 PM
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Originally Posted by widlfiresd
The thing about leasing is this.

If you lease a car, say an IS300, and return it 3 years later, most dealers/financial institutions will scrutinize the car more if you do not plan to lease another one. They do not want the car back. However, they have to take it.
thats not the case with lexus financial services. they have an independent company inspect the vehicle after it is turned in, and the inspector has no idea if you got into another vehicle or not.
Old 02-07-07 | 08:24 PM
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lfs is more liberal when gauging the overall condition of the lease turn in than others companies are. they dont expect the car to be in showroom condition, they expect it to have 3-4 years of use on it.
Old 02-07-07 | 08:29 PM
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and the good thing about leasing is when it is up you just turn the car in and dont have to worry about selling it. just return the car anywhere. my parents returned their old LS430 to the dealer nearby and picked up another LS430 somewhere else that had the car in stock.
Old 02-07-07 | 08:41 PM
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Originally Posted by SILes300
Is this true???
Yes, this is often true. If you managed to negotiate a high residual value, and the resell/market value at end of lease is lower, most leasing companies would rather entice you to buy the vehicle for less than chancing an even bigger loss in prepping & reselling the vehicle at auction or on the market. Unless it's a hot reseller like a Mini, they really don't want to take the car back at all if they can help it. Of course, this is a bad way to ultimately buy your vehicle, because you end up paying for it 1 and a half times over a straight loan, but some people get stuck and/or like the vehicle enough to stay in it.

In my story on the previous page, I forgot to mention that while the leasing company were jerks about wear & tear, they did sell the vehicle to me at a reduced price from the contracted residual. Don't remember the exact difference, it might have been around 10% less.
Old 02-07-07 | 09:10 PM
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Originally Posted by tw88
Thanks for the feedback. Seems like they have a lot of leverage to get someone to lease another vehicle or to buy it at end of lease by nitpicking everything and running up the "repair" tab.
Actually the lease end inspections are done by a third party company
which I'm sure doesn't get paid by the amount of damage.
Old 02-07-07 | 09:11 PM
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Whats the story on buying the car after 1 -2 years into a 4 year lease. Thanks Drew
Old 02-07-07 | 09:59 PM
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Originally Posted by jjbodean
thats not the case with lexus financial services. they have an independent company inspect the vehicle after it is turned in, and the inspector has no idea if you got into another vehicle or not.
100% true...
Old 02-07-07 | 10:00 PM
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Originally Posted by jjbodean
lfs is more liberal when gauging the overall condition of the lease turn in than others companies are. they dont expect the car to be in showroom condition, they expect it to have 3-4 years of use on it.
correct again
Old 02-07-07 | 10:02 PM
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Originally Posted by AZ IS350
Yes, this is often true. If you managed to negotiate a high residual value, and the resell/market value at end of lease is lower, most leasing companies would rather entice you to buy the vehicle for less than chancing an even bigger loss in prepping & reselling the vehicle at auction or on the market. Unless it's a hot reseller like a Mini, they really don't want to take the car back at all if they can help it. Of course, this is a bad way to ultimately buy your vehicle, because you end up paying for it 1 and a half times over a straight loan, but some people get stuck and/or like the vehicle enough to stay in it.

In my story on the previous page, I forgot to mention that while the leasing company were jerks about wear & tear, they did sell the vehicle to me at a reduced price from the contracted residual. Don't remember the exact difference, it might have been around 10% less.

true...but not with LFS. The residual value/lease end purchase price is stated on your LFS contract. It is not negotiable with them. I have seen other leasing companies negotiate the lease buy-out price though...
Old 02-07-07 | 10:05 PM
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Originally Posted by kryolla
Whats the story on buying the car after 1 -2 years into a 4 year lease. Thanks Drew
i have never seen it to be advantageous to purchase a lease vehicle at any time during the lease. If your intent is to buy at one point, buy it in the beginning. In some states, you not only pay sales tax upfront in the lease, but you have to pay it again since most states treat the transaction as a pre-owned vehicle purchase.
Old 02-08-07 | 11:07 AM
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FinanceGuy, do you agree with the general statement to put lil' or nothing down on a lease to offset the risk of losing your security deposit(s) due to theft or a total loss accident ? TIA.


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