View Poll Results: At 1 time or another my ISx50 has had a problem with pulling on the road
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Does your 2IS pull left or right?
02-14-07, 10:11 AM
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To be honest it's probably a combination of the road surface and the width of the tires. Heavily used road surfaces get grooves from the repeated vehicular traffic. Cars with wide tires will tend to tramline along these grooves. If you brake or accelerate and your tyres aren't quite in the grooves the steering will pull one way or another. On highways it's more pronounced on the part of the roads that HGVs use.
02-14-07, 10:12 AM
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yeah, mine does it in certain situation... bought it in Dec before the new year... I have the bridgestone so that means it has to do with the
A) VCT and/or speed sensitive steering locking up? Programming glitch?
B) OEM alignment with OEM factory wheel specs?
C) OR are some of us just "special"?
A) VCT and/or speed sensitive steering locking up? Programming glitch?
B) OEM alignment with OEM factory wheel specs?
C) OR are some of us just "special"?
02-14-07, 10:12 AM
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It sounds to me like an alignment problem. Too much toe out in the rear would make the tail wanders around, especially in braking.
If the dealership said the fixed the alignment, request a print out. Spec alignment is a "range". The toe might be right at the edge of that range and they still call it ok.
If the dealership said the fixed the alignment, request a print out. Spec alignment is a "range". The toe might be right at the edge of that range and they still call it ok.
02-14-07, 10:56 AM
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If you're talking about how your steering wheel tends to veer left/right while breaking (or at anytime when there is a heavy load on the front wheels) on less than perfectly smooth surfaces, then that's called tire tracking which is a common problem with grippy performance tires, specially with directional treads. Grippy tires will follow every the groove on the road, which is designed to provide feedback to the driver thru the steering wheel. Great for a race track, but a bit annoying on the road. Unfortunately our cars with 18" wheels all come with sumemr performance tires.
Tire tracking is more apparent on the Lexus compared to other sporty cars because the steering theds to be a bit lighter compared to say, a BMW. Given the same wheels and tires on the same road, you will feel the Lexus track more compared to the BMW which has a heavier steering to insulate the driver from all the little imperfections of the road.
You can't really do much about the Lexus steering, so get some less grippy tires with asymetrical treads.
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02-14-07, 11:27 AM
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Um... if your steering wheel isn't straight, why would you expect the car to stop straight? It doesn't sound like an alighment problem if this is your complaint.
If you're talking about how your steering wheel tends to veer left/right while breaking (or at anytime when there is a heavy load on the front wheels) on less than perfectly smooth surfaces, then that's called tire tracking which is a common problem with grippy performance tires, specially with directional treads. Grippy tires will follow every the groove on the road, which is designed to provide feedback to the driver thru the steering wheel. Great for a race track, but a bit annoying on the road. Unfortunately our cars with 18" wheels all come with sumemr performance tires.
Tire tracking is more apparent on the Lexus compared to other sporty cars because the steering theds to be a bit lighter compared to say, a BMW. Given the same wheels and tires on the same road, you will feel the Lexus track more compared to the BMW which has a heavier steering to insulate the driver from all the little imperfections of the road.
You can't really do much about the Lexus steering, so get some less grippy tires with asymetrical treads.
If you're talking about how your steering wheel tends to veer left/right while breaking (or at anytime when there is a heavy load on the front wheels) on less than perfectly smooth surfaces, then that's called tire tracking which is a common problem with grippy performance tires, specially with directional treads. Grippy tires will follow every the groove on the road, which is designed to provide feedback to the driver thru the steering wheel. Great for a race track, but a bit annoying on the road. Unfortunately our cars with 18" wheels all come with sumemr performance tires.
Tire tracking is more apparent on the Lexus compared to other sporty cars because the steering theds to be a bit lighter compared to say, a BMW. Given the same wheels and tires on the same road, you will feel the Lexus track more compared to the BMW which has a heavier steering to insulate the driver from all the little imperfections of the road.
You can't really do much about the Lexus steering, so get some less grippy tires with asymetrical treads.
02-14-07, 11:27 AM
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I have noticed it once or twice in the 800 miles i have driven mine, i disagree with the condition of the road being to blame 100% of the time because mine veered to the left when i stopped on a brand new road that i know i have braked just fine (just lighter breaking force) plenty of times before.
02-14-07, 01:55 PM
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Yup, I had the same problem and Longo lexus first did the alignment then, ended up, replacing all 4 tires. The problem is not completely gone but it is much better than before so I'll hold off on bringing it back in.
