This is why old people shouldn't drive...
06-21-07, 11:13 AM
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I’m sorry you were the victim of this side swipe; I know how upsetting that can be. But please don’t rant on all old people. Generalizing like that is prejudicial. Yes, some people are too old to drive, but others are very good drivers, as shown by their low accident rate for their age group. BTW, I’m 70 years old and take pride in my driving record. 
ps: course the IS is attractive at any age, some grandpa in a new RX i was parked next too at the azn market was eyeing my car up big time on monday
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06-21-07, 11:19 AM
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I dont know if calling the police is really neccessary in this situation since it doesnt look THAT severe. I dont know about the US, but here in canada, you only call the police if the damage is more than $2000.
But judging by the pictures, in this case it doesnt look that severe, and since you have the other party's info it should be fine.
But judging by the pictures, in this case it doesnt look that severe, and since you have the other party's info it should be fine.
06-21-07, 12:37 PM
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Not that I'm using a walker yet, let's not forget the 18 year old pimple faced, snot nose, whose daddy bought him an IS350 because surprise....he graduated high school. Given all the kids worldly driving experience, he races the IS like a he stole it, expects the rest of the world to get out of his way, and has absolutely no road courtesy. Then, when his has a minor accident he's not thankful that nobody was hurt, but wants to prove his manhood by punching out some oldster, and then whines about the damage to his car.
So much for broad, and wrong generalities, but give it a rest.
06-21-07, 12:42 PM
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WOW your 70 and in a IS? Is your other car a LS or ES? I do understand boiz will be boiz and we love our toiz no matter what the age... still, did you consider the ES? OR are you some retired professional/amature racer?
ps: course the IS is attractive at any age, some grandpa in a new RX i was parked next too at the azn market was eyeing my car up big time on monday
ps: course the IS is attractive at any age, some grandpa in a new RX i was parked next too at the azn market was eyeing my car up big time on monday
The IS250 is actually my wife’s who is 58.But I would suggest that some of you should be more concerned with teenage drivers than senior citizens. The chart in the attached article shows that even the most elderly (+85) are safer on the road then the 16-19 age group. Having said that, I believe most drivers over 85 should consider not driving anymore. But the 65-84 age groups still has a good record, and stereotyping them is not backed up by the data.
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06-21-07, 12:46 PM
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There are incompetent drivers of all ages on the road in all parts of the world. I understand the rant. You're angry your new car has been unceremoniously christened with an ugly dent and now you have the hassle of getting it fixed. But, the driver's age doesn't matter. Take a peek at the girl + cell phone+ red light = thread if you have any doubts.
My sympathies for your loss. Let's not get carried away with accusations by stereotype.
My sympathies for your loss. Let's not get carried away with accusations by stereotype.
06-21-07, 12:49 PM
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But I would suggest that some of you should be more concerned with teenage drivers than senior citizens.......Having said that, I believe most drivers over 85 should consider not driving anymore. But the 65-84 age groups still has a good record, and stereotyping them is not backed up by the data.
BTW, them younger women are dangerous.
06-21-07, 12:54 PM
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Thier is always one tough guy in the group........
Anyway, in CA it is left up to the drivers involved to complete the nessacary paperwork in any collision that does not result in an injury. But it is up to the individual jurisdictions if they will respond or not, if it is tying up traffic etc. But where i live they dont respond, to busy busting gang bangers to make the streets safe for spoiled kids who think the world owes them a living.
In 5 years of law enforcement i have seen more accidents casued by snot nosed kids (people under 25) yapping on thier phones, eating, playing with thier CD players and thinking in general they own the road then i have ever seen with the elderly.
In fact the person who said that the "elderly tend to be less argumentitive etc etc" is true, one they are usually scared; two they probably have way better insurance then you 3; are more curtious and sympethetic then most average people.
cut them some slack, it was an accident and you can get your door replaced.
I love to watch the LA news and see all the Freeway shootings, they are usually casued by a reaction of a "tough guy" who is not armed who mouthes off or flips the bird to someone who is strapped.
Anyway, in CA it is left up to the drivers involved to complete the nessacary paperwork in any collision that does not result in an injury. But it is up to the individual jurisdictions if they will respond or not, if it is tying up traffic etc. But where i live they dont respond, to busy busting gang bangers to make the streets safe for spoiled kids who think the world owes them a living.
In 5 years of law enforcement i have seen more accidents casued by snot nosed kids (people under 25) yapping on thier phones, eating, playing with thier CD players and thinking in general they own the road then i have ever seen with the elderly.
In fact the person who said that the "elderly tend to be less argumentitive etc etc" is true, one they are usually scared; two they probably have way better insurance then you 3; are more curtious and sympethetic then most average people.
cut them some slack, it was an accident and you can get your door replaced.
I love to watch the LA news and see all the Freeway shootings, they are usually casued by a reaction of a "tough guy" who is not armed who mouthes off or flips the bird to someone who is strapped.
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06-21-07, 12:54 PM
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I would call the police if for nothing else to get an accident report. That's the first documentation the insurance company is going to look for. Pretty much anywhere you go they will take a long time to show up unless someone is badly hurt, but I'd rather get someone with authority like a cop to determine who was at fault rather than one person's word against another's, even if the damage was obviously caused by someone else. If waiting an hour greatly reduces the chance of my claim being rejected, then it's worth it.
06-21-07, 01:10 PM
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Calling the police in California is a waste of time for a non-injury accident. After 27 years of living there and enough road events, I've learned there is only one thing to do: exchange information, file a claim, and if you have any doubts about the other person, go to any CHP office and file your own report.
Filing your own report protects you and the other person from fraud. Lots and lots of bad things happen everyday to good people because they fail to file a report. For example - you get hit in your car by someone - they file a report, but at the scene it was you and the other driver. In the report, it's you, the other driver and all five of his cousins who were in the car and will testify you hit them. Fraud is especially rampant in Cali, so file a report ASAP.
Filing your own report protects you and the other person from fraud. Lots and lots of bad things happen everyday to good people because they fail to file a report. For example - you get hit in your car by someone - they file a report, but at the scene it was you and the other driver. In the report, it's you, the other driver and all five of his cousins who were in the car and will testify you hit them. Fraud is especially rampant in Cali, so file a report ASAP.
06-21-07, 01:32 PM
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Sorry to hear about the crunch, but glad no one was hurt. If you got his insurance information, you are fine. You will be asked to state your version of the events and the other driver will do the same. Your pictures may be helpful, too. The insurance company will then make a determination as to who was principally at fault. Hopefully, the other driver is honest and it goes smoothly.
06-21-07, 01:41 PM
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Another trick when in this situation, is get the driver's insurance information, and call THEIR insurance company immediately on the spot. Chances are they will admit fault right then and there as there are not too many people that will blatently lie in front of your face.
You could also call your company and start a claim right then.... using the same tactic, although you may want to wait until a claim is started on their end, so that this doesn't become a "he said she said" incident because once this driver speaks to their own insurance company with a slightly different story, things may go on.
Anyway, that's my tip of the day.
You could also call your company and start a claim right then.... using the same tactic, although you may want to wait until a claim is started on their end, so that this doesn't become a "he said she said" incident because once this driver speaks to their own insurance company with a slightly different story, things may go on.
Anyway, that's my tip of the day.