Hypothetical: IS350 vs. Boxster S?
07-27-07, 05:46 AM
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Boxster S is simply the best handling, most balanced, practical and reliable SPORTS car made....there is no substitute????????
You damn right there is no substitute. IT IS THE SUBSTITUTE. It's not even the best handling, most balanced, practical and reliable SPORTS car within its brand. First of all, you can't even take that thing to a real track without bolting on a roll cage. And really Boxters, S or not, are basically for people who can't afford the real thing, but still want the badge. Kinda like IS250, BMW318's, and whatever else MB is churning out these days at the bottom of the barrel. The only thing it's good for is fooling 90% of chicks into thinking they are sitting in a real Porsche.
You damn right there is no substitute. IT IS THE SUBSTITUTE. It's not even the best handling, most balanced, practical and reliable SPORTS car within its brand. First of all, you can't even take that thing to a real track without bolting on a roll cage. And really Boxters, S or not, are basically for people who can't afford the real thing, but still want the badge. Kinda like IS250, BMW318's, and whatever else MB is churning out these days at the bottom of the barrel. The only thing it's good for is fooling 90% of chicks into thinking they are sitting in a real Porsche.
Enjoying both of these fine cars, I couldn't agree more. The Miata offers great bang for the buck, but it isn't half the car that the Boxster is. An extensive test drive of both will prove that. However, they are both SPORTS cars, the IS is a fine, 4 door, slush box, sedan.
The Boxster S is simply the best handling, most balanced, practical and reliable SPORTS car made....there is no substitute! Unless you want a hard top...then it's the Cayman S.
The Boxster S is simply the best handling, most balanced, practical and reliable SPORTS car made....there is no substitute! Unless you want a hard top...then it's the Cayman S.
07-27-07, 06:03 AM
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What... Boxster S is a great car.
So what if it's entry level? Isn't the IS an entry level Lexus as well?
Don't forget to get some race gas, or at least octane booster. Weight reduction is important as well. Remember to starve yourself 3 days prior and take a big crap as well as some ipecac to clean out your stomach
Lastly, race naked.
So what if it's entry level? Isn't the IS an entry level Lexus as well?
Don't forget to get some race gas, or at least octane booster. Weight reduction is important as well. Remember to starve yourself 3 days prior and take a big crap as well as some ipecac to clean out your stomach
Lastly, race naked.
07-27-07, 06:45 AM
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What... Boxster S is a great car.
So what if it's entry level? Isn't the IS an entry level Lexus as well?
Don't forget to get some race gas, or at least octane booster. Weight reduction is important as well. Remember to starve yourself 3 days prior and take a big crap as well as some ipecac to clean out your stomach Lastly, race naked.
So what if it's entry level? Isn't the IS an entry level Lexus as well?
Don't forget to get some race gas, or at least octane booster. Weight reduction is important as well. Remember to starve yourself 3 days prior and take a big crap as well as some ipecac to clean out your stomach
Lastly, race naked.http://www.elisetalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=30524
...which convinced me that it really didn't do a damn thing. And keep in mind, this is an apples-to-apples Toyota technology comparison.
07-27-07, 07:38 AM
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Does race gas really help?? There was an extensive argument about it over on the Lotus boards:
http://www.elisetalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=30524
...which convinced me that it really didn't do a damn thing. And keep in mind, this is an apples-to-apples Toyota technology comparison.
http://www.elisetalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=30524
...which convinced me that it really didn't do a damn thing. And keep in mind, this is an apples-to-apples Toyota technology comparison.
NO! The only thing race gas does is slows the combustion process. Allows for more control during combustion. I.E. more power higher octane.
07-27-07, 07:51 AM
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Boxster S is simply the best handling, most balanced, practical and reliable SPORTS car made....there is no substitute????????
You damn right there is no substitute. IT IS THE SUBSTITUTE. It's not even the best handling, most balanced, practical and reliable SPORTS car within its brand. First of all, you can't even take that thing to a real track without bolting on a roll cage. And really Boxters, S or not, are basically for people who can't afford the real thing, but still want the badge. Kinda like IS250, BMW318's, and whatever else MB is churning out these days at the bottom of the barrel. The only thing it's good for is fooling 90% of chicks into thinking they are sitting in a real Porsche.
You damn right there is no substitute. IT IS THE SUBSTITUTE. It's not even the best handling, most balanced, practical and reliable SPORTS car within its brand. First of all, you can't even take that thing to a real track without bolting on a roll cage. And really Boxters, S or not, are basically for people who can't afford the real thing, but still want the badge. Kinda like IS250, BMW318's, and whatever else MB is churning out these days at the bottom of the barrel. The only thing it's good for is fooling 90% of chicks into thinking they are sitting in a real Porsche.
On top of that the car is WONDERFUL and has won every single comparison it is in, in ever single magazine.
THe BMW Z4 and M4 gets its rear handed to it everytime. The car is COMPLETE, speed and handling.
I suggest you go drive one before you make such poorly judged comments. The Boxster S is the REAL DEAL.
Some even prefer its mid-engine layout to the rear-engine 911.
07-27-07, 07:55 AM
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Sir, while people might clown Boxter (or Coxter) owners for not having a 911, people might clown IS owners for having the entry level Lexus.
On top of that the car is WONDERFUL and has won every single comparison it is in, in ever single magazine.
THe BMW Z4 and M4 gets its rear handed to it everytime. The car is COMPLETE, speed and handling.
I suggest you go drive one before you make such poorly judged comments. The Boxster S is the REAL DEAL.
Some even prefer its mid-engine layout to the rear-engine 911.
On top of that the car is WONDERFUL and has won every single comparison it is in, in ever single magazine.
THe BMW Z4 and M4 gets its rear handed to it everytime. The car is COMPLETE, speed and handling.
I suggest you go drive one before you make such poorly judged comments. The Boxster S is the REAL DEAL.
Some even prefer its mid-engine layout to the rear-engine 911.
07-27-07, 08:05 AM
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I've seen enough of them on my rear view mirror at glen and limerock to know I don't want a boxter. For basically same money I rather have cayman instead, and really I rather have used 911 - with all its faults from rear-engine to oil leaks - than brand new boxter anyday and twice on a track day.
And if you think boxter is "better" in whatever positive way vs 911 than you are smoking something that's not legal. 911>>>>cayman>>boxter.
And if you think boxter is "better" in whatever positive way vs 911 than you are smoking something that's not legal. 911>>>>cayman>>boxter.
Sir, while people might clown Boxter (or Coxter) owners for not having a 911, people might clown IS owners for having the entry level Lexus.
On top of that the car is WONDERFUL and has won every single comparison it is in, in ever single magazine.
THe BMW Z4 and M4 gets its rear handed to it everytime. The car is COMPLETE, speed and handling.
I suggest you go drive one before you make such poorly judged comments. The Boxster S is the REAL DEAL.
Some even prefer its mid-engine layout to the rear-engine 911.
On top of that the car is WONDERFUL and has won every single comparison it is in, in ever single magazine.
THe BMW Z4 and M4 gets its rear handed to it everytime. The car is COMPLETE, speed and handling.
I suggest you go drive one before you make such poorly judged comments. The Boxster S is the REAL DEAL.
Some even prefer its mid-engine layout to the rear-engine 911.
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it's true--they are very high quality / reliable---it's just that their parts are extremely expensive and labor-intensive due to the layout (i.e. a routine 60k maintenance will cost big bucks vs. a normal car)
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