Why am I losing lug nuts?!
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I just received my new low friction / low dust brake pads, so I'm installing them right now. While taking one of my front wheels off, I find a lug nut that is seized! I spent about 40 minutes loosening a few turns then letting it cool, loosening a few more turns, then letting it cool ... until the lug finally snapped off! I haven't had these kind of problems since I started autocrossing 15 years ago!
I just received my new low friction / low dust brake pads, so I'm installing them right now. While taking one of my front wheels off, I find a lug nut that is seized! I spent about 40 minutes loosening a few turns then letting it cool, loosening a few more turns, then letting it cool ... until the lug finally snapped off! I haven't had these kind of problems since I started autocrossing 15 years ago!
Double check the wheel fitment (the hub-centric)... I had a friend whom ordered the right bolt pattern and offset for his car but the wheels were not hub-centric (to his car)... everytime he drove the lug nuts came loose... to a point where one of his wheels actually came off while he was driving (LOL). He went back to the shop and they apologized for not giving him the hub-centric adapters.
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Almost positive Toyota lugs aren't supposed to be tightened that far. My buddy works at discount tire and he says that Toyota is lower than most manufacturers torque requirements, and that its also the #1 reason people ruin their lugs.
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Make sure that the shank of the lug nut is not too long. With the wheel off the car, insert a lug nut into the lug of the wheel. If you can see any part of the shank protrude through the back side of the wheel then the lug nut is bottoming out against the hub and the wheel is not being tightened. If the lug nuts seems to tighten much faster than usual, say, 1/8 turn, that's a good indicator that you're bottoming out.
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I know that 90 ft-lbs is above spec, but the OEM spec seems WAY too loose with my torque wrench. I also don't see how overtightening would cause my lug nuts to loosen on their own and fall off. I do realize that overtightening could have contributed to the lug snapping off last night, but I realized this morning that my front wheels were last mounted up by a Goodyear tire place a couple weeks ago. I guess he must have cross threaded it.
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Heck they probably don't meet (or are not required to meet) any US/European regulatory standards!
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Problem is, many aftermarket lug nut are sourced from the cheapest supplier possible in China. Is it any suprize that they aren't made to the same quality/tolerances/standards of OEM/specialist lug nuts.
Heck they probably don't meet (or are not required to meet) any US/European regulatory standards!
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Heck they probably don't meet (or are not required to meet) any US/European regulatory standards!
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Factory wheels are good but they are heavy, and people are limited to tires they want have. So far I think the stock wheels look much better than any of the after market wheels I’ve seen on this site.
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