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Buying 19'' Varianza T1S's

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Old 12-17-07, 08:15 PM
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These rims are 2pc cast. Do you guys have any opinions on the quality of these rims. I just want to make sure that these rims will last and not begin to crack...

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Old 12-17-07, 08:34 PM
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Good luck with those, they look pretty disgusting. (disgusting means sick where im from ;p)
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wait, do you seriously mean disgusting... or do you actually think they look good?? lol
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Go forged if you can... you'll regret going cast.
Old 12-17-07, 09:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Hartawan
Go forged if you can... you'll regret going cast.
agreed if you have the cash go forged.
Old 12-17-07, 10:38 PM
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Mine will be in next week I got 19x10 et 38mm and 19x8.5 et 36mm. I am going to be running 235/35/19 up front and 275/30/19 in the rear.
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I love this wheels!!!! if I had the money I would buy them
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Ya... because they are cast, i decided to go with the Iforged Equips which are basically the same rim... just pricier
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nice nice, forged is great. you'll feel lucky that you went forged.
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wuts the difference between cast and forged?
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Originally Posted by dAiLL3sT
wuts the difference between cast and forged?
Have same question ^
Old 12-26-07, 02:34 PM
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Originally Posted by dAiLL3sT
wuts the difference between cast and forged?
These guys talking forged being so much better than cast are just talking what they heard unstead of what they know.
Forging a metal makes it strong because it reduces bubbles and impurities in the metal. This allows wheel makers to make it lighter by using less metal. That reduses it's advantage over cast wheels because the less dense metal can bend more easily.
There are several casting processes, some good and some not so good. A poorly cast wheel can be damaged on impact more easily than a well made cast wheel.
I hang around wheel shops. Many forged wheels are returned for bends. Some cast wheels are returned for cracks. I see more forged wheels bent than cast wheels cracked or broken. I think the biggest reason there are problems is that people have gone so low on tire profile, there isn't enough protection. The bottom line:
forged wheels advantage is they are lighter and have that look of quality. However, a multi-piece cast wheel is prbably best because it will be strong and still have that look provided by higher end wheels.
Work, Lowenhart, Maya, Racinghart and MRR use the highest level of casting on the market. Their wheels should be durable and definitely look good.

All wheels can be damaged. If you want to protect your wheels better, stop using 20 and 25 profile tires. Stretching tires also increases the risk of damaging wheels. A 30 profile tire severely stretched offers very little protection. Remember, the ground doesn't give in.
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Originally Posted by dAiLL3sT
wuts the difference between cast and forged?
Casting involves taking a mold and pouring hot metal into it, then letting the metal cool to form the shape. If done improperly, you can get things like voids. The grain structure of the resulting shape is also a little funky at times, because the metal begins to harden as soon as it hits the mold wall.

Forging involves heating up a piece of metal (below the melting temperature) and then pounding it into shape with what amounts to a big hammer. You can retain the original grain structure of the material, and even improve it somewhat, since the grains will align with the way the forging is made.
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so question... is the lexus stock wheels cast or forged?
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the stocks are cast...
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