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Old 03-04-08, 02:49 PM
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will they work if i swap a mark lenvingston nav from a regular nav with out mark..levingston, i wanted the dvd player.. will it work... and what do i need.. ? thanks guys...
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Let's clafiry the question:

You want to change the Nav system, or do you want to change the audio system?

Both Nav systems of the non-ML and ML versions are the same.

However, the audio player is different. Non-ML players are CD only, has one less speaker, and has a completely different configuration and set-up. ML players are CD/DVD compatible, and is not a simple "plug-and-play."

In other words, if you want the ML system on the non-ML vehicle, you will need to change the speakers and its configuration; change the audio wiring to link to the Nav screen, shifter, and parking brake; and pay $$$ for labor alone...
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well i have both here nav and the audio are ML, and mind are non ML. how about just change the audio or is it better to change swap the all thing nav and audio...how muh cash... are we talkin to here ..? will it work that way...?
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Trade in your car for one with ML.
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I was able to install Navi+ML in my cousins car without Nav. So the Amp/Center channel are not requirements. The navi "knows" that the ML amp isnt there, and will not use 5.1 digital audio

You need the video cable though. I am not sure if you can buy that seperately.
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Originally Posted by PhilipMSPT
Let's clafiry the question:

You want to change the Nav system, or do you want to change the audio system?

Both Nav systems of the non-ML and ML versions are the same.

However, the audio player is different. Non-ML players are CD only, has one less speaker, and has a completely different configuration and set-up. ML players are CD/DVD compatible, and is not a simple "plug-and-play."

In other words, if you want the ML system on the non-ML vehicle, you will need to change the speakers and its configuration; change the audio wiring to link to the Nav screen, shifter, and parking brake; and pay $$$ for labor alone...
Phillip is 110% correct, it is not worth it. The cost and install would be outrageous. All ML components carry an extremely expensive price tag. Your better off with aftermarket if you that concerned with sound.
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One point of clarification- ML _without_ nav doesn't play DVDs- have to get ML with the nav to get the DVD changer.
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it comes with all video cable and everything... im doing everything my self i just want to take mind apart if its not gonna work... thanx guys for helping me out .. for this
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Originally Posted by rocampo
it comes with all video cable and everything... im doing everything my self i just want to take mind apart if its not gonna work... thanx guys for helping me out .. for this
Also, let me clarify that the ML option plus the Nav option is different than ML+Nav.

Nav w/o ML = CD player w/o surround sound quality, 12 instead of 13 speakers.
Nav and ML = CD player with ML surround sound quality.
Nav+ML = DVD player with video capability, with ML surround sound quality.

Therefore, the DVD player is what you are missing, and you would need to integrate the DVD player with the Nav screen to play DVD videos. Not an easy nor inexpensive task, but it can be done if your technician knows what they're doing...
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great phil, now i want ML on mine.
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Originally Posted by PhilipMSPT
Also, let me clarify that the ML option plus the Nav option is different than ML+Nav.

Nav w/o ML = CD player w/o surround sound quality, 13 instead of 14 speakers.
Nav and ML = CD player with ML surround sound quality.
Nav+ML = DVD player with video capability, with ML surround sound quality.

Therefore, the DVD player is what you are missing, and you would need to integrate the DVD player with the Nav screen to play DVD videos. Not an easy nor inexpensive task, but it can be done if your technician knows what they're doing...
That should "13 speakers not 14" up there for the Nav w/out ML setup

ML is 14 speakers (10 in the doors, 2 in the rear shelf, 1 sub, 1 center), non-ML is 13 (12 in the doors, 1 sub)

For those playing the option code home game as well-

NV- Nav (stock stereo, 13 speakers)
ML- Mark Levinson Audio (no nav req- 14 speakers)
VN- Nav+ML (this one plays DVDs, nothing else does)

The fact the VN option includes the DVD changer is why it's a fair bit more expensive than if you priced out the NV and ML options by themselves

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Originally Posted by Kurtz
The fact the VN option includes the DVD changer is why it's a fair bit more expensive than if you priced out the NV and ML options by themselves
$500 difference to be exact...
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