View Poll Results: What will the condition of my oil be after 10,000 miles?
Your oil will be just fine, you could probably go even more than 10,000 miles
26
56.52%
Your oil will be sludge, and you've ruined your engine
20
43.48%
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oil change ? (Merged with previous thread)
08-16-07, 05:18 AM
#78
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Cool. nice to know that its VERY safe for me if I change my oil at 5K miles. 
Did you reset the oil change indicator at 5K? cuz it stays on and bugs the heck out of you if you dont change the oil... I had my 15K mile done at 15200 and that 200 extra miles was the worse! I hated seeing that red ! and the Maintenance required on my instrument cluster
Did you reset the oil change indicator at 5K? cuz it stays on and bugs the heck out of you if you dont change the oil... I had my 15K mile done at 15200 and that 200 extra miles was the worse! I hated seeing that red ! and the Maintenance required on my instrument cluster
It came on for a few seconds when the car started at like 4,500 or something, so I reset it then... Then it came on again at 9,000 or so, again, I reset it... So I'll probably reset it 3 more times before I change the oil again... I'm gonna wait 1 year, which will prob be close to 15,000 miles... My guess is the oil will still have additive left and be fine, just like it was this time...
08-16-07, 05:56 AM
#79
This UOA showed that the OEM fill (dino oil), at 10K miles, did not defeat the additive package. This would indicate that if you use a high quality synthetic oil you should be able to safely run a 1 year OCI. That is exactly what I plan on doing. My next change will be Amsoil 0w-20 and I will send a sample out at the 1 year (less then 15K miles) interval to see what's left.
Technique - Thanks for being the ginny pig and sharing the results!
Koz
Technique - Thanks for being the ginny pig and sharing the results!
Koz
08-16-07, 07:11 AM
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I reset the oil indicator 2 times before I actually changed the oil It came on for a few seconds when the car started at like 4,500 or something, so I reset it then... Then it came on again at 9,000 or so, again, I reset it... So I'll probably reset it 3 more times before I change the oil again... I'm gonna wait 1 year, which will prob be close to 15,000 miles... My guess is the oil will still have additive left and be fine, just like it was this time...
It came on for a few seconds when the car started at like 4,500 or something, so I reset it then... Then it came on again at 9,000 or so, again, I reset it... So I'll probably reset it 3 more times before I change the oil again... I'm gonna wait 1 year, which will prob be close to 15,000 miles... My guess is the oil will still have additive left and be fine, just like it was this time...
08-16-07, 07:33 AM
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To reset: All you need to do is hold the tripmeter button down with the key in the ignition in the OFF position. As you are holding down the tripmeter button, turn the key to the ON position. If the Odometer zeros out and the light flashes a couple times, the light should be reset.
08-16-07, 07:54 AM
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It only has almost 6K on it. I didn't want to do an extended OCI on it since it is the 1st batch of 5W-20 that I've used (Mobil 1). I need to send it off to Blackstone so I can figure out when I should change it again. I already have a few thousand on the current oil.
08-16-07, 08:39 AM
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Ask blackstone to see if they can do a TAN test. It seems like your oil has become acidic and leaching coppor for soft metal bearings. If my copper was at 133 there would be bells and whistles going off in my head but blackstone...I dont know who they let write these synopsis. Just to give you and idea, my copper at 5000 total miles on the car was 4 and at 10173 total miles was 1 and I drive my car hard too atleast redline it a few times a day depending on how my day is going.
08-16-07, 02:09 PM
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I had a feeling it might have been in there but it was easier to just ask than to go dig in the trunk for it. Comfort of being in front of the computer.
08-17-07, 05:58 PM
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I have been watching this post for a long time, and Technique, kudos to you for all of your dilligent investigating and risk taking. If you were to poll the number of people in this club who will be selling/trading in their lexus before it hits 50k miles... i am sure your numbers will be scarse.
For the people like me, who expect to get 200k miles out of their cars, I have spoken with a Lexus mechanic about this, as well as a Space-flight bearing designer (read= bearings that run at 7,000 rpms constant for 20 years, without any service)
The simple fact is that "remaining detergent" is not why people should change their oil every 3/5kmiles... It is a factor in the big picture.
The big picture is that the components which rely on a thin layer of oil in your vehicle need to have this oil at all times of operation. If you are constantly pumping contaminated oil through your vehicle, it wears these components faster.
--Read the blackstone cert yourself... the rep states that the oil you had in your vehicle had evidence of wear much higher than what should be flowing through your engine at 5,900 miles... to me, this means the remaining 4,100 miles was knowingly driven with wear on the engine greater than normal!
Also, silicone is proven to de-wet bearing surfaces, which produces excessive friction/wear as well. a lot of silicone particles are evidence of bearing and bearing race wear.
so on a final note. i am with everyone else who has stated they hope to never buy a vehicle from you. Why? Because the vehicle was neglected and knowingly ran without proper maintenance. We agree with your standpoint of "who cares, I am getting rid of the car at 45k anyways." BUT, we also disagree because we would never do this (we are keeping our vehicles longer!).
again, thanks for the research, and the eye opener; however, this neglect isn't what people who wish to have a reliable vehicle should do.
For the people like me, who expect to get 200k miles out of their cars, I have spoken with a Lexus mechanic about this, as well as a Space-flight bearing designer (read= bearings that run at 7,000 rpms constant for 20 years, without any service)
The simple fact is that "remaining detergent" is not why people should change their oil every 3/5kmiles... It is a factor in the big picture.
The big picture is that the components which rely on a thin layer of oil in your vehicle need to have this oil at all times of operation. If you are constantly pumping contaminated oil through your vehicle, it wears these components faster.
--Read the blackstone cert yourself... the rep states that the oil you had in your vehicle had evidence of wear much higher than what should be flowing through your engine at 5,900 miles... to me, this means the remaining 4,100 miles was knowingly driven with wear on the engine greater than normal!
Also, silicone is proven to de-wet bearing surfaces, which produces excessive friction/wear as well. a lot of silicone particles are evidence of bearing and bearing race wear.
so on a final note. i am with everyone else who has stated they hope to never buy a vehicle from you. Why? Because the vehicle was neglected and knowingly ran without proper maintenance. We agree with your standpoint of "who cares, I am getting rid of the car at 45k anyways." BUT, we also disagree because we would never do this (we are keeping our vehicles longer!).
again, thanks for the research, and the eye opener; however, this neglect isn't what people who wish to have a reliable vehicle should do.
08-17-07, 09:41 PM
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I have been watching this post for a long time, and Technique, kudos to you for all of your dilligent investigating and risk taking. If you were to poll the number of people in this club who will be selling/trading in their lexus before it hits 50k miles... i am sure your numbers will be scarse.
For the people like me, who expect to get 200k miles out of their cars, I have spoken with a Lexus mechanic about this, as well as a Space-flight bearing designer (read= bearings that run at 7,000 rpms constant for 20 years, without any service)
The simple fact is that "remaining detergent" is not why people should change their oil every 3/5kmiles... It is a factor in the big picture.
The big picture is that the components which rely on a thin layer of oil in your vehicle need to have this oil at all times of operation. If you are constantly pumping contaminated oil through your vehicle, it wears these components faster.
--Read the blackstone cert yourself... the rep states that the oil you had in your vehicle had evidence of wear much higher than what should be flowing through your engine at 5,900 miles... to me, this means the remaining 4,100 miles was knowingly driven with wear on the engine greater than normal!
Also, silicone is proven to de-wet bearing surfaces, which produces excessive friction/wear as well. a lot of silicone particles are evidence of bearing and bearing race wear.
so on a final note. i am with everyone else who has stated they hope to never buy a vehicle from you. Why? Because the vehicle was neglected and knowingly ran without proper maintenance. We agree with your standpoint of "who cares, I am getting rid of the car at 45k anyways." BUT, we also disagree because we would never do this (we are keeping our vehicles longer!).
again, thanks for the research, and the eye opener; however, this neglect isn't what people who wish to have a reliable vehicle should do.
For the people like me, who expect to get 200k miles out of their cars, I have spoken with a Lexus mechanic about this, as well as a Space-flight bearing designer (read= bearings that run at 7,000 rpms constant for 20 years, without any service)
The simple fact is that "remaining detergent" is not why people should change their oil every 3/5kmiles... It is a factor in the big picture.
The big picture is that the components which rely on a thin layer of oil in your vehicle need to have this oil at all times of operation. If you are constantly pumping contaminated oil through your vehicle, it wears these components faster.
--Read the blackstone cert yourself... the rep states that the oil you had in your vehicle had evidence of wear much higher than what should be flowing through your engine at 5,900 miles... to me, this means the remaining 4,100 miles was knowingly driven with wear on the engine greater than normal!
Also, silicone is proven to de-wet bearing surfaces, which produces excessive friction/wear as well. a lot of silicone particles are evidence of bearing and bearing race wear.
so on a final note. i am with everyone else who has stated they hope to never buy a vehicle from you. Why? Because the vehicle was neglected and knowingly ran without proper maintenance. We agree with your standpoint of "who cares, I am getting rid of the car at 45k anyways." BUT, we also disagree because we would never do this (we are keeping our vehicles longer!).
again, thanks for the research, and the eye opener; however, this neglect isn't what people who wish to have a reliable vehicle should do.