cm09578

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thanks for the input!

gsrthomas

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Engine Oil Change
Cabin Pollen Filter
Engine Air Filter

That's it!

Dont get anything else done especially those "visual checks".

Brian231

+1, that is exactly all you need to get done!!!!

kingofire

How about brake fluid flush?

Brian231

45k is a good time for this, but I want to let everyone know that when I paid $120 for this on my gen 1 4 years ago, they do not bleed the brakes on all four calipers. Basically all they did was suck the fluid out of the master cylinder and I was lied to. I was told three times prior to the service that they bleed all 4 wheels. I watched the tech perfomr this and was told by freinds at other dealers that they just suck the old fluid out. I do believe all dealers do the same method as it is a universal hand held pump. You can basically suck the fluid out with a wet-vac or pump out with an old bottle of a cleaner. Just make sure to completely rid the bottle and trigger of any contaminates. You can perfom yourself in 5 minutes for $4 (cost of dot 3).

njmurvin

Good info!!! My wife got sucked into a bunch of unneeded work on her Accord during the last oil change.

What about the 20K service on my IS350. Oil change only, I would assume. Anything else? BTW, dealer owes me the oil change for free (bought CPO with 15k on it and first oil change is free). I just know they will try to upsell me.

Big Andy

Rear diff oil needs changing at 20k too.

njmurvin

Really??? Service manual doesn't specify this until 60k. Why so early?

Ramon

I highly doubt the rear diff fluid needs to be changed out at 20k

LILDANTE79

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thanks for letting me know im due for my 30k service on the 19th of this month and they want $425.00 for the service.. plus i have to pay for a rental.

Big Andy

I don't know - I'm looking at my Lexus manual now and it clearly states - 20k replace rear differential oil. I've also got my two 20k Lexus service sheets (the tick sheets they give you when you pick up your car from the service dept) and they confirm replace rear differential oil.

Kurtz

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Incorrect-

http://www.lexus.com/models/IS/servi...intenance.html

Scheduled maint. is on the right in a PDF.

At 20k the only items are:

Oil change, rotate tires (not on staggered), check brakes, road test vehicle.

That's it.

There's some visual checks added if you drive on dirty roads. Zero about the differential.



At 30k they -check- the differential oil, they still don't change it.


Diff oil is inspected again at 45k, not replaced.

Inspected again at 60k, not replaced.

Inspected again at 75k, not replaced.

Inspected again at 90k, not replaced.

and so on, every 15k (starting at 15k) You check the fluid.

At no point in the entire life of the scheduled maintenance do you replace it unless they find something wrong with it.


EDIT- just noticed the poster is in the UK, if he has a 220d or something it's possible they have a different maint. schedule than in the US... but the person asking the original question is in the US so what I posted would be what they should go by.

Big Andy

Actually I have an IS250 RWD Auto. Anyway, I have my service and warranty booklet here and in Europe we have two types of service:

1. Intermediate service which is carried out every 10k miles or 1 year and is basically an oil and filter change plus general look over.

2. A full service which is carried out every 20k or 2 years miles and includes the above plus changing the rear diff oil and aircon filter, as well as brake fluid. The diff oil is then drained and refilled every 20 k miles.

I find it strange that Lexus Europe want the diff oil changed every 20k miles and Lexus USA say don't ever change it?

Kurtz

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Weird indeed. Your engine oil intervals are twice as long as in the US too (where it is recommended every 6 months or 5k miles). I wonder if they use the same fluids for engine oil and the diff here as there.

Big Andy

As far as I'm aware the oils used are the same, certainly the specs quoted are identical. Lexus say you can use ordinary mineral oil but most places use Shell Helix semi-synth. I checked my last invoice and they charged me under $10 for the new diff oil so it's no great expense - obviously there's a bit of labour to go on top of that.

5k oil changes disappeared from most manufacturers' schedules in Europe in the early 90s as oil and filter technology improved. Lexus sticks with 10k changes while most others have moved out to 12-15k or longer intervals. In the US there is a culture of shorter intervals heavily propmoted by the oil companies. Dealers also put pressure onto manufacturers not to move out to longer intervals as it would effectively half the amount of servicing work they get with a knock on impact on profits. It'd drive me mad having to go back to the dealer every 5k.

My last Audi had an oil condition monitor in the sump and with longlife oils only had 3 dealership visits in 70k.