Shoafb

Do not buy a MT without test driving one.

I owned one for over a year.... it feels cheap and killed the car for me.

Much happier now with an AT.

ChrISF

yea i test drove one twice (different dealerships) and i would rather have the manual than the AT. i said 30k OTD just for the car, without title, tags, and tax. they still said no. im going in later today to show them the page

Joe Z

iTrader: (10)

For the record the term OTD = Out The Door...

Which we use here and industry uses as price of the car with all fees included..

$30,500 to $31,000 plus + TTL fees should be your target goal..

Or dealer invoice plus TTL fees should be your goal..

But its hard to find dealerships that will sell you a Sepcial Order for dealer invoice.. But they do exist... !

TTL = Tax, Title & Lic fees

The MSRP on your exact build is $33,870..

Dealer Invoice on this car is approx $30,000

Good Luck

Joe Z

tex2670

they wont care about that page. you keep them honest by getting lots of quotes. use car buying websites to solicit dealer quotes even from dealers 100s of miles away. especially big volume dealers. if u tell them u have a price of $xx from dealer abc, they will respond as best they can. they will just tell u the edmonds info is wrong.

MLIAISON

Just play the game...."their quote, your quote"....lol

rdgdawg

And I hook it up to my laptop and download new software every 3 months or so... amazing how accurate the maps are now.... losing the US Topology war with Garmin saved them $$ and still have the SAME maps.. LOL...

GO TOM TOM!!!!