Acura TSX 2008 or Lexus IS250 2008
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But having had both and being in the new TSX they are both great cars. I drove both the IS250 & IS350 when I got my car. The IS250 to me doesn't make sense unless you are getting the AWD. The only plus, preference, is the Lexus is RWD. But we are not talking about 2 performance cars here. I have had many leased Acura cars for work over the years and the quality of my IS is the same as what you get from Acura for a fraction of the cost. I have had the same sub issues and the same rattles in the IS as I did in all my TL's But I guess I expect too much maybe??
If you haven't go drive them both. I cant say I am sold on the new body style of the TSX but it drove nice and the inside is perfect the way its set up. If you are getting the navi Acura BLOWS Lexus away in this department.
seeing that you have had the TSX IMO you will really like the improvements they did to the inside of the car. They really did a great job with the lay out. If we didn't need a little extra room for my family I would have ended up with the new TSX for her. I would consider it for my daily driver and get a toy to have fun with
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I purchased a 2004 TSX in 04 when they first came out...had for 2 years I loved it, for the price it has everything you want, xmradio, HID lights,fog lights,and of course the standard leather and cd changer...im my personal opinion for the price it seems more logical to get the tsx because it comes with everything that a 250 nonnavi would come with, but I personally liked the way the IS looks overall compared to the TSX. SO i traded it in for a 2007 brand new IS...and then i eventually got a 2007 Acura TL...as well.
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Thanks for the details passnu and congrats on your car and the new future family member!!
I might go with the TSX for now..but I'm sold on the looks of the IS250 as well...IS350 is the best deal in it's class, better than Acura TL (agreed).. I heard from the dealers that the IS300 (new car) is coming out next year with around 240 HP, so IS will now have 3 cars in it's lineup: IS250, IS300 and IS350.. Also heard that the new Lexus re-design will be out in 2011/2012..
Enjoy!
I might go with the TSX for now..but I'm sold on the looks of the IS250 as well...IS350 is the best deal in it's class, better than Acura TL (agreed).. I heard from the dealers that the IS300 (new car) is coming out next year with around 240 HP, so IS will now have 3 cars in it's lineup: IS250, IS300 and IS350.. Also heard that the new Lexus re-design will be out in 2011/2012..
Enjoy!
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I'd have to say the main difference would be the "class" the two cars exude. The IS is one level above the TSX. Keep in mind the TSX is really a jazzed up Honda Accord. Still, can't go wrong with either.
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Honestly, IMO the IS250 is not much different from a corolla, it's also jazzed up...ofcourse, it has that crooked L in the grill.. for those of you who think TSX is just an accord, haven't driven that car or don't know much about it.. It's based on the euro accord, but 'not' an accord...Also, the 1st Gen IS was based on the Toyota Altezza.. the IS300 was nothing more than a complete re-badged car in the US.. Inifiniti G37, which in my opinion will kill the IS250/350 and is a MUCH MUCH better car (exterior/interior is gorgeous), is also called Nissan Skyline in Japan... I'm almost sure some of the Lexus's in US are probably Toyota's in Japan.. If you're a true enthusiast, you'll go for the BMW IMO.. it is also interesting to see how Lexus owners have different views based on the type of forum they're in.. in the BMW forums they tend to boast about how reliable the Lexus is, how much they can get more for the money in the Lexus and the BMW costs like $10K grand more with the same options, but in their own forums, the other cars (like the TSX costs 5K less) have the same specs and probably drive better than the IS250 won't agree that it's pretty much in the same class... Based on Fizzboy, seems like everything is an alternative in the end: BMW is alternative to Ferrari, Lexus to BMW, Acura to Lexus and so on... Well, Acura.. Lexus.. BMW etc.. are all high-end brands and IMO, the TSX and IS250 are in the same class, infact the TSX wil eat the IS250 on the highway for lunch.. No offense, that's a fact!
I don't own either cars, but would like to get the facts right though..I like both of them a lot!
I don't own either cars, but would like to get the facts right though..I like both of them a lot!
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Honestly, IMO the IS250 is not much different from a corolla, it's also jazzed up...ofcourse, it has that crooked L in the grill.. for those of you who think TSX is just an accord, haven't driven that car or don't know much about it.. It's based on the euro accord, but 'not' an accord...Also, the 1st Gen IS was based on the Toyota Altezza.. the IS300 was nothing more than a completed rebadged car in the US.. Inifiniti G37, which in my opinion will kill the IS250/350 and is a MUCH MUCH better car, is also called Nissan Skyline in Japan... I'm almost sure some of the Lexus's in US are probably Toyota's in Japan.. If you're a true enthusiast, you'll go for the BMW IMO.. it is also funny to see how Lexus owners have different views based on the type of forum they're in.. in the BMW forums they tend to boast about how reliable the Lexus is, how much they can get more for the money and the BMW costs like $10K grand more, but in their own forums, the other cars (like the TSX costs 5K less) have the same specs and probably drive better than the IS250 won't agree that it's pretty much the same class.. Acura.. Lexus.. BMW etc.. are all high-end brands.
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okay comming from me i have a 05 tsx and a 07 is250. TSX short simple and sweet is best bang for the buck. There are lots of mods you can do for it. Is250 is if you want the luxury. With the newer tsx its better then the old ones. I just think that the lexus is a more comfortable and quite ride. I love both cars but i just love my is250 more . But test it out for yourself to see which of both cars you like. Save that 5k and put it into mods or invest and save on somthing if you dont want the is250. But if you can get the is350
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okay comming from me i have a 05 tsx and a 07 is250. TSX short simple and sweet is best bang for the buck. There are lots of mods you can do for it. Is250 is if you want the luxury. With the newer tsx its better then the old ones. I just think that the lexus is a more comfortable and quite ride. I love both cars but i just love my is250 more . But test it out for yourself to see which of both cars you like. Save that 5k and put it into mods or invest and save on somthing if you dont want the is250. But if you can get the is350
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yeah leg room is an issue in the is250 but hey all i need is the front seat for my and my GF and most of my family that i drive around are Azn and they fit no problem plus i have crammed oddles of people in my car before and they never complained plus you are never in the back seat anyways unless you have some company ;P and theres more then enough room for that
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Wow! IS not much different than a Corolla? Yet say TSX and Accord in the same sentence and you take offense??
Sorry, the difference for me was rear wheel drive. I've had four front wheel drive cars, and three of them were absolute junk. My car shopping criteria No.1 was REAR WHEEL DRIVE!! Sounds like you are really leaning towards the Acura. Have fun down the road a little ways with tire wear, CV joints, front brakes, struts, power steering components.......
Please list for me the front wheel drive sedans made by:
Lexus
BMW
Mercedes
Maserati
Jaguar
Hmmmmm.....
I wonder why that is?
Sorry, the difference for me was rear wheel drive. I've had four front wheel drive cars, and three of them were absolute junk. My car shopping criteria No.1 was REAR WHEEL DRIVE!! Sounds like you are really leaning towards the Acura. Have fun down the road a little ways with tire wear, CV joints, front brakes, struts, power steering components.......
Please list for me the front wheel drive sedans made by:
Lexus
BMW
Mercedes
Maserati
Jaguar
Hmmmmm.....
I wonder why that is?
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Honestly, IMO the IS250 is not much different from a corolla, it's also jazzed up...ofcourse, it has that crooked L in the grill.. for those of you who think TSX is just an accord, haven't driven that car or don't know much about it.. It's based on the euro accord, but 'not' an accord...Also, the 1st Gen IS was based on the Toyota Altezza.. the IS300 was nothing more than a complete re-badged car in the US.. Inifiniti G37, which in my opinion will kill the IS250/350 and is a MUCH MUCH better car (exterior/interior is gorgeous), is also called Nissan Skyline in Japan... I'm almost sure some of the Lexus's in US are probably Toyota's in Japan.. If you're a true enthusiast, you'll go for the BMW IMO.. it is also interesting to see how Lexus owners have different views based on the type of forum they're in.. in the BMW forums they tend to boast about how reliable the Lexus is, how much they can get more for the money in the Lexus and the BMW costs like $10K grand more with the same options, but in their own forums, the other cars (like the TSX costs 5K less) have the same specs and probably drive better than the IS250 won't agree that it's pretty much in the same class... Based on Fizzboy, seems like everything is an alternative in the end: BMW is alternative to Ferrari, Lexus to BMW, Acura to Lexus and so on... Well, Acura.. Lexus.. BMW etc.. are all high-end brands and IMO, the TSX and IS250 are in the same class, infact the TSX wil eat the IS250 on the highway for lunch.. No offense, that's a fact!
I don't own either cars, but would like to get the facts right though..I like both of them a lot!
I don't own either cars, but would like to get the facts right though..I like both of them a lot!
1. The IS 250/350/IS-F has NOTHING in common with the Corolla. The Corolla is FWD/I-4 and based on a total different platfrom. The IS is based on a shortned GS platform. They have NOTHING in common.
2. The TSX IS an Euro Accord, its not BASED on the Accord. It is a Grill/badge swap. Not a body panel changes.
3. The Toyota Altezza in Japan and IS 200 in Europe were launched at the same time. It also was on its own platform. Europe had the IS 200 for ages and any Lexus version only offered a I-6 in the IS 200 or IS 300, never was a 4-cylinder offered. The Altezza kept the 4-cylinders.
4. The G37 is slower than the IS 350, it doesn't kill anything. Good car though.
5. TSX will not eat the IS for lunch on the highway.
I think you might take it slightly personal but there has NEVER been a review in ANY magazine where the TSX was reviewed against the 3 series or IS. That is why people know its a class below those cars. Acura does a great job with the TSX but it still lacks the BASICS, a 6 cylinder engine and a RWD platform. At least Audi offers that and AWD in the A4.
No one is saying the TSX is a bad car but its not in the same class. The TSX offers a well built interior, good list of standard features, good size, non offensive looks and a great shifting manual if you choose it. Clearly it was a huge hit for Acura.
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Honestly, IMO the IS250 is not much different from a corolla, it's also jazzed up...ofcourse, it has that crooked L in the grill.. for those of you who think TSX is just an accord, haven't driven that car or don't know much about it.. It's based on the euro accord, but 'not' an accord...Also, the 1st Gen IS was based on the Toyota Altezza.. the IS300 was nothing more than a complete re-badged car in the US.. Inifiniti G37, which in my opinion will kill the IS250/350 and is a MUCH MUCH better car (exterior/interior is gorgeous), is also called Nissan Skyline in Japan... I'm almost sure some of the Lexus's in US are probably Toyota's in Japan.. If you're a true enthusiast, you'll go for the BMW IMO.. it is also interesting to see how Lexus owners have different views based on the type of forum they're in.. in the BMW forums they tend to boast about how reliable the Lexus is, how much they can get more for the money in the Lexus and the BMW costs like $10K grand more with the same options, but in their own forums, the other cars (like the TSX costs 5K less) have the same specs and probably drive better than the IS250 won't agree that it's pretty much in the same class... Based on Fizzboy, seems like everything is an alternative in the end: BMW is alternative to Ferrari, Lexus to BMW, Acura to Lexus and so on... Well, Acura.. Lexus.. BMW etc.. are all high-end brands and IMO, the TSX and IS250 are in the same class, infact the TSX wil eat the IS250 on the highway for lunch.. No offense, that's a fact!
I don't own either cars, but would like to get the facts right though..I like both of them a lot!
I don't own either cars, but would like to get the facts right though..I like both of them a lot!
Now on your comment about a G37 destroying a IS350 in your opinion, well you are wrong based on facts. IS350s run the 1/4 mile in the 13.5 range bone stock and G37s run it around 13.9 or 14.0. The funny thing is, is that the G35 sedan is just as fast as the G37 at around 13.9-14.0 since it is lighter than the G37.
So basically the IS350 will destroy any G car 35 or 37 on the street and they are just about equals on a skid pad. Finally, the 350 gets better fuel mileage than the Gs.
Facts are generally better to go by than opinions.
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Everyone,
I respect all your cars, I'm not trying to start anything here.. I know IS250 is the GREATEST car in this category (if that makes you happy!).. But I also want to get the facts right, not on paper but on the road.. I have test driven both the cars, and even though the TSX is I4 and FWD, I get the same response on the road in terms of speed, the IS250 has a slight edge in handling, with better balance but it's not that much of a different though.. IMO both are awesome cars, whether it be a honda/acura badge or the Lexus...
Enjoy
I respect all your cars, I'm not trying to start anything here.. I know IS250 is the GREATEST car in this category (if that makes you happy!).. But I also want to get the facts right, not on paper but on the road.. I have test driven both the cars, and even though the TSX is I4 and FWD, I get the same response on the road in terms of speed, the IS250 has a slight edge in handling, with better balance but it's not that much of a different though.. IMO both are awesome cars, whether it be a honda/acura badge or the Lexus...
Enjoy