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Old 07-07-08, 02:00 PM
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i have no idea how your rpm is that high. AT 70mph, i'm barely past 2K rpm. I have the AT RWD though.
Old 07-07-08, 06:15 PM
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An IS250 RWD Auto comes with a Torsen?
Old 07-07-08, 06:32 PM
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Originally Posted by lobuxracer
The housings are not the same. The rear subframes are not the same. Unless you want to replace the whole rear subframe assembly you're not going to make this work.

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ISx50

wow.. lobuxracer... you are the man...

sheesh where do you guys get all this info from?
Old 07-07-08, 06:59 PM
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Looking at the description, I can not tell if the IS350 Diff is a limited slip unit. I definately looks beefier than the IS250 one.
Old 07-07-08, 08:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Scottward
Looking at the description, I can not tell if the IS350 Diff is a limited slip unit. I definately looks beefier than the IS250 one.
It's not. Only the IS250 has an optional Torsen diff. None of the other models do including the IS-F.
Old 07-07-08, 08:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Batmobile
wow.. lobuxracer... you are the man...

sheesh where do you guys get all this info from?
The New Car Features Manual - here's another sample - it's available at http://techinfo.toyota.com by subscription. $10 gets you up to 47 hours of access. I have an annual subscription because I use it a lot for all three cars we own.


Old 07-08-08, 05:43 AM
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Lobux for the win.
Old 07-08-08, 06:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Bichon
Nope.

IS250 RWD auto: 21 city/29 highway
IS250 AWD auto: 20 city/26 highway

IRL my IS 250 RWD auto: 24 city/31 highway
Old 07-08-08, 06:40 AM
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Lowering your final drive ratio could easily reduce your city mileage as much or more than it raises your highway mileage. When I swapped my ring and pinion in my S2000 to go from 4.10:1 to 4.77:1, my city mileage went from 19 to 24 (25% improvement) in the city. My highway mileage only dropped from 29 to 26 (10% loss).

I also find it hard to believe an IS-F differential would only be $1500. I would have expected more like $5000. Even if it was only $2000 installed, how many miles do you think it would take to make that up in fuel savings if you get 5% better mileage? My calcs show that you would have to spend at least $40,000 on gas before a 5% savings will break even on the $2000 modification.
Old 07-08-08, 07:33 AM
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Hey lobo.. is it possible to remove the resonator on the intake pipe without causing harm? The diagram said its only for sound reduction.
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Originally Posted by mikez
Hey lobo.. is it possible to remove the resonator on the intake pipe without causing harm? The diagram said its only for sound reduction.
Perfect for a PM or new thread ...

Better yet, do a search. There's been several threads about shaving the resonators. I've even posted pics of mine.
Old 07-08-08, 09:53 AM
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ISF diff. 41110-53270 Lexus' MSRP = $2,132.95
Like lobux says, it will not bolt in. It's completely different. The 350 and ISF share the same rear subframe but the 250 doesn't.

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Old 07-08-08, 10:11 AM
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Here is my 2 cent. I dont think he meant literally changing to IS-F diff. I think he meant changing to the same gear ratio as the IS-F diff. Much cheaper in that sense.

You dont have to change the diff to get different ratio. You can change tire size to get the same result.

My Z28 originally had 3.73 but when i blew it out they put in a 4.10 because of a TSB they recommended it. Like Gernby said you lose certain things and gain others. I lost mileage 19 city to 14 city but gain hwy 22 to 24. I also gained a couple tenths at the strip.

Just an FYI for the non-gear heads. if the number gear ratio goes up the lower the gearing.
Old 07-08-08, 10:35 AM
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Originally Posted by slee18
Here is my 2 cent. I dont think he meant literally changing to IS-F diff. I think he meant changing to the same gear ratio as the IS-F diff. Much cheaper in that sense.

You dont have to change the diff to get different ratio. You can change tire size to get the same result.

My Z28 originally had 3.73 but when i blew it out they put in a 4.10 because of a TSB they recommended it. Like Gernby said you lose certain things and gain others. I lost mileage 19 city to 14 city but gain hwy 22 to 24. I also gained a couple tenths at the strip.

Just an FYI for the non-gear heads. if the number gear ratio goes up the lower the gearing.
How did you gain highway mileage with a shorter gear? You'd cruise higher but use less throttle around town, letting the torque of the higher gear pull you around.

Either way, going from a 3.9x to a 2.97 in a car that weighs over 3200 lbs and makes barely 200 at the crank is a waste of time. My buddy did it in his Firebird because he does an NY to FL run doing 120-140 and likes to hold on to his gas mileage. But that car had torque, unlike an IS250.
Old 07-08-08, 11:26 AM
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Originally Posted by panyo64
How did you gain highway mileage with a shorter gear? You'd cruise higher but use less throttle around town, letting the torque of the higher gear pull you around.
I dont think re-flashed my e-prom when they put in a new gearing. I might not be registering the right speed and distance because of that.

Kind in mind someone order my 1991 Z28 but they didnt buy it. It is a rare police package in a civilian car. There were only about 1500 built for that. I have been clocked at a top speed of 168. It has no speed limiter and all the goodies of a police package without the lights and sirens!

What sucks is when i have to take it in I have to remind my mechanic that so when he orders parts. broke my mechanics foot because of a fuel tank. He order a stock and mine is about 1 gallon bigger. He put the straps on and it slipped out of the straps.

Enough about that... I agree change the gearing will make the car boog on the street. I wouldnt recommend it Too bad they dont make a over-under system like they do for trucks.


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