View Poll Results: Does Babying the IS make it Lazzy and Slower???
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Does Babying your car make it slower???
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So here's what you get after 148k miles on a bone stock engine (down to OEM air filter, both original cats, stock exhaust, and plugs with 42k miles on them) with just a little more boost than stock. FWIW, the dyno operator said this type of dyno typically shows about 30 hp less than a Dynojet in this power range.
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The break-in guidelines in the owner's manual are written in the simplest way possible to minimize warranty claims. I don't believe in doing high RPMs when the engine has very low miles, but I do think you should do full throttle at low RPMs EVERY time you have a chance in the early miles (without downshifting that will cause high RPMs). After about 50 miles, the engine is probably 90% broken in. After that, the remaining 10% of the engine and drivetrain break-in (loosening up) will lead to more power to the ground.
If I knew then what I know now about the ECT modes, I would use ECT Snow to do quite a bit of WOT in various gears as soon as I left the dealership to maximize the cylinder pressures at low-mid RPMs.
If I knew then what I know now about the ECT modes, I would use ECT Snow to do quite a bit of WOT in various gears as soon as I left the dealership to maximize the cylinder pressures at low-mid RPMs.
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Aw sh#t......
I am currently at 900 miles and I have only done a few WOT in the following incidents:
- Mileage 600 miles - Getting onto interstate, WOT from 50 to 95 mph and stayed 90 mph for 15 sec.
- Mileage 725 miles - Raced a Dodge Caravan, going WOT from 0-60 mph.![Uhh...](https://www.clublexus.com/forums/images/smilies/1387914497.gif)
- Mileage 760 miles - Cruised at 95~ 100 mph on the interstate for about 3 minutes.
- Mileage 800 miles - Raced a Dodge Charger R/T HEMI, going WOT from 0-100+mph, left the Charger in the dust.
After 10 sec I slowed down to 75 mph.
That's pretty much it what I have done. The other times I didn't do WOT and usually gentle driving.
SO am I too late? Am I screwed?? Was it not enough for a descent hard breakin then?????![Uhh...](https://www.clublexus.com/forums/images/smilies/1387914497.gif)
I wait for your input.
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I am currently at 900 miles and I have only done a few WOT in the following incidents:
- Mileage 600 miles - Getting onto interstate, WOT from 50 to 95 mph and stayed 90 mph for 15 sec.
- Mileage 725 miles - Raced a Dodge Caravan, going WOT from 0-60 mph.
![Uhh...](https://www.clublexus.com/forums/images/smilies/1387914497.gif)
- Mileage 760 miles - Cruised at 95~ 100 mph on the interstate for about 3 minutes.
- Mileage 800 miles - Raced a Dodge Charger R/T HEMI, going WOT from 0-100+mph, left the Charger in the dust.
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That's pretty much it what I have done. The other times I didn't do WOT and usually gentle driving.
SO am I too late? Am I screwed?? Was it not enough for a descent hard breakin then?????
![Uhh...](https://www.clublexus.com/forums/images/smilies/1387914497.gif)
I wait for your input.
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The purpose of breaking in an engine is to get the rings to seat properly. A ring needs to wear into a cylinder as neither are 100% round. A new newly honed cylinder is pretty rough and will wear the ring a very small amount. Too much pressure and revs may wear more than needed. The owners manual should have a recommendation. Most say to keep the revs and load below 70-80% for how ever many miles. Others say beat on it from the start. I have never done a leak down or measured end gap on back to back engines to know which is best. I have also never bought a new car and build my own engines and can afford if it doesn't make it 200k miles. If I did buy a $35,000 + car I might be a little easy on it for 500 miles.
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The purpose of breaking in an engine is to get the rings to seat properly. A ring needs to wear into a cylinder as neither are 100% round. A new newly honed cylinder is pretty rough and will wear the ring a very small amount. Too much pressure and revs may wear more than needed. The owners manual should have a recommendation. Most say to keep the revs and load below 70-80% for how ever many miles. Others say beat on it from the start. I have never done a leak down or measured end gap on back to back engines to know which is best. I have also never bought a new car and build my own engines and can afford if it doesn't make it 200k miles. If I did buy a $35,000 + car I might be a little easy on it for 500 miles.
The shape of the piston is critical to performance because a piston that is not round at temperature will not support the ring pack and will allow blowby that should never occur. So I heat new pistons with progressively larger loads until I hit WOT in top gear for 15 seconds. I do this in steps, but if you click on the links I provided, all this is covered in greater detail.
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HAAA thats funny you mention that I also raced a Charger R/t Daytona edition with all the badges and psss I also beat him pretty good. We were on a roll from about 20 to 65 and he never had a chance.
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I've built a lot of engines for street and competition. Baby it and it will never make full power. It will use more oil, and it will never be as efficient as it should be. I've been doing something like this for years. In fact, here's mine. Here's another discussion of mine.
So, baby it and expect bad things IME.
So, baby it and expect bad things IME.
All i knwo is that form there I did punch it pretty hard. hopefully it will pay off and I will have a factory freak
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I don't know about driving WOT from day one, but I definitely drove the car the way I drive it now from day one. I didn't baby her either. Although lately I've let off the right pedal a lot due to high gas prices.
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It's a very controversial issue. Some believe that the OM is the way to go. Others, like Lobux, say drive it hard from day one. I've always been told that the most important part of breaking in a new engine is to "seat the rings". Now, I'm sure Lexus seats the rings at the factory but could it be better? Yes. The most effective way to seat the rings after the engine is assembled is to do the following:
Make sure the car is in fact "new" (less than 20 miles, preferably fewer)
In the IS, put the car in sport mode and drop it down to 1st gear.
From a dead stop, go to WOT until the engine hits red-line.
Slam the throttle closed and let the car slow using the engine's deceleration.
Do this 5 or 6 times and you're done. The rings are now seated better than if the car were babied.
Now, you can take it easy for the next 600-800 miles for the rest of the mechanicals of the car.
I'm not saying this is the absolute right way to do it, it's just how I was taught since I was a kid building small block Chevy's.
Make sure the car is in fact "new" (less than 20 miles, preferably fewer)
In the IS, put the car in sport mode and drop it down to 1st gear.
From a dead stop, go to WOT until the engine hits red-line.
Slam the throttle closed and let the car slow using the engine's deceleration.
Do this 5 or 6 times and you're done. The rings are now seated better than if the car were babied.
Now, you can take it easy for the next 600-800 miles for the rest of the mechanicals of the car.
I'm not saying this is the absolute right way to do it, it's just how I was taught since I was a kid building small block Chevy's.
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