cssnms

Really??? Worthless??? I disagree... Not to derail this thread, but I too have owned and sold more then my fair share of high-end performance automobiles to include Ducati motorcycles. In the private market, I found having records to show a buyer is a significant benefit. On almost every occassion the buyer not only asks for records but scrutinized them. Buyer's are comforted when a seller can demonstrate that not only was the seller **** about taking care of the exterior/interior, but equally if not more so **** about taking care of the working parts especially regarding performance automobiles. My experience has been that 99% of the time the first buyer to look at one of my cars bought it that day despite considering other vehicles. For a buyer, when it comes down to a clean well taken care of documented car vs. an undocumented car the documented car will win hands down in almost every case and the documented car will likely fetch a higher price. Why do you think people are so apprehensive about buying undocumented auctioned vehicles?

That said, I have yet to sell any of my Lexus vehicles, so perhaps it is true as Lance suggests that a buyer looking at a Lexus will not care as much, but it is complete naivity to believe vehicle records are worthless.

Over and out!

cssnms

Agreed, but I guess some would like you to believe those buyers are just not that "smart." LMAO

Technique

100% agreed on carfax... I hate carfax I had a scratch on a car, a MINOR scratch, could barely see it except in a certain light at a certain angle... Decided to take it to a body-shop for an estimate, and they said, "well, we'll give you an estimate to paint it, but you can probably just wet sand it out"... They gave me an estimate and then wet sanded it for free and it was perfect.... Guess what? When I went to sell the car a few years later I saw "1 accident" on my carfax record... WTF??? It was from the estimate from the body shop...

Funny thing is, I had another car at that same time that was rear-ended and actually had decent damage ($3000) and carfax was 100% clean when I sold that one!! carfax FTL...

Not worthless, I said "basically worthless"... Meaning, unless you have an exotic (Ferrari, Lotus, Ducati) it won't make a lick of difference...

Granted, 90% of the cars I've sold in the past 10 years have been mid-range "luxury" cars (Acura, Jag, mercedes, lexus, bmw) ($25k-$60k), so maybe it's just that market... Maybe the people buying $5k used civics want full records, and maybe the people buying $80k used S65's do to, I dunno... I doubt it though...

cssnms

OH, I see, thanks for clearing that up!

Only buyers of $5k civics or Ferraris want full service records? You're pulling my leg right?

YES, we finally agree!

Technique

Well, those are the only buyers I haven't really dealt with, so I'm just saying that if someone out there cares about service records, maybe it's those people... The people who bought from me in the past certainly didn't care about a lack of service records... And I've consistently seen/heard the same...

Anyway, if it makes you feel better, or you think you'll get more money, or sell your car faster, have the pile of service records... But IMHO it certainly does NOT pay dividends... The cost of all that maintenance is NOT recovered in a higher sales price...

lol

Janizary

3rd oil sample.

Taken on a short OCI due to higher-than-expected FE in the last sample. Ran short to attempt to isolate a few variables. Will run another short OCI on next change to verify and check one more variable. Yes, yes, big waste of money on the M1-EP for a short OCI. Needed to maintain same oil to eliminate one variable.

Janizary

As above. This is the final 'short' OCI. All is looking good, so back to 5K+ OCI. It looks like Terry may have been correct in his sidebar assessment.

Technique

Funny how he tells you that you can go "back" to 5000 mile oil changes while at the same time he says my IS350 can go 12,000+ miles on regular dino oil...

Eddiebx

you guys be the judge:

Shahryar

Are you supposed to replace the filter every 5k for these long OCI w/ Amsoil?

anthrax144

Yes, change the filter out every 5k if you want to the oil to last. You'll lose maybe 1/2 quart of oil at most. It's a good time to check the oil and top off as well.

Kurtz

iTrader: (1)

5k is probably a little more often than necessarily... if I recall a few guys have had pretty good UOAs with no filter change at all and a 10-11k OCI.... it's around 12k with no change I've seen some questionable UOA results...

I suspect with something as good as amsoil you could run at least a 15k OCI with a filter change at 7500... possibly you'd be ok going as high as 20-25k OCI/filter at 10-12.5k.

With just Mobil 1 something like a 12k OCI with a filter change at 6 ought to be fine, and might be pushable as high as 15k/7500 filter.

As always you'd need to try it yourself and get UOA done to be sure exactly what is ok for YOUR car under YOUR driving conditions though.