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Old 09-26-08, 08:46 AM
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Originally Posted by tqlla3k
According to the manual it sounds like disaster if you use 87 octane. It says to tow it to the dealership and drain the gas. Those are pretty strong words.

Is this for the IS350 too?

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Old 09-26-08, 09:15 AM
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jeeze i just filled up with 87 the other day as well, didn't know the manual said - tow it to the dealership and have it drained -, otherwise i probably wouldnt have done that...
Old 09-26-08, 09:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Scythe
jeeze i just filled up with 87 the other day as well, didn't know the manual said - tow it to the dealership and have it drained -, otherwise i probably wouldnt have done that...
I've been running my '07 on regular since I got it in June '07.
No problems.
Car runs fine, plenty of pep, and ~ 25-26 mpg combined
Old 09-26-08, 09:44 AM
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had my car since 06 and have run regular everyday... no problems and get an average of 25 mpg
Old 09-26-08, 10:06 AM
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same here been running 87 regulars w/o any problems...
correct me if im wrong...i thought this subject was beaten to death with conclusion that regulars will not harm ur engine...will not lower mpgs....will however lower the performance a little which u will never notice unless u push ur is to the limit....
Old 09-26-08, 10:12 AM
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Dump some 110 leaded into it...and say goodbye to your cats and sensors...and hang on

Joking...just don't floor it and bring it up in high rpm's...you'll be fine.
Old 09-26-08, 10:12 AM
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Oh btw...I'm in Charlotte too. Sunoco on Woodlawn near Bill Gram had 93.
Old 09-26-08, 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted by steview83
same here been running 87 regulars w/o any problems...
correct me if im wrong...i thought this subject was beaten to death with conclusion that regulars will not harm ur engine...will not lower mpgs....will however lower the performance a little which u will never notice unless u push ur is to the limit....
Just the opposite actually.


The car requires 91.

If you put 87 in it what happens is this-

The engine will knock. The sensors will notice that and retard the engine timing to prevent destroying it. You now have reduced power. It's entirely possible you have worse mileage too, negating your savings entirely while very very slightly damaging the motor.

After a while since the car wants to run on 91, and it has NO IDEA what fuel is actually in it, it will add timing back in. The car will knock again. Cycle repeats.

Each cycle is unlikely to kill the motor. But cycle after cycle, year after year, is bad.

You might drive 100k and have it still run, but it'll be in a lot worse condition than a motor that ran on 91 for that 100k.



All to save $3 a tank on a $40,000 car.
Old 09-26-08, 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Kurtz
All to save $3 a tank on a $40,000 car.
thing is im not made of money so i'll run super all the time, must be nice to be able to spend 40k on a car and just ignore the recomended stuffs for it... *sigh* i wish i was BALLA like you guys
Old 09-26-08, 03:38 PM
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aha...thanx for the info fellas!
guess im switching back to 91
Old 09-26-08, 09:16 PM
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Been running 87 in my car since delivery. Just for fun I did a test with 3 tanks of 93 compared to 3 tanks of 87 afterward. On 93 I got 27,28,27 mpg. On 87 I got 29,30,30. I don't notice my car is any slower, but what do I know. I'm only an engineer and I tune cars on the side.
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I lost 2 mpg on 87 vs. Cali 91.
Old 09-27-08, 06:15 AM
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i wish they got rid of ethanol in my area. i want better gas mileage w/o the "up to 15% ethanol" crap in my gas
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Originally Posted by widebandph
, but what do I know. I'm only an engineer and I tune cars on the side.
^ whats this? Tune via butt dyno? J/K
Old 09-27-08, 10:11 PM
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There will be NO NO NO damage to your car with 87....They did a test and its about 1% less power and about the same MPG. There will be no damage done to the engine as modern engines are built with a tolerance...they have to be by law. They cannot sell a car that will not run (without damage) on 87. Now I normally put in Super because I like the performance, but put in what you want and it will run fine.


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