The "Look what I got today!" Thread
12-03-12, 09:42 AM
#4624
Cut and pasted from another article:
"As long as one appreciates the limits of the point, it's an important point to make: a digital signal is just a string of ones and zeros. When a digital signal gets through a cable, and is interpreted correctly at the other end with no dropped bits, the result is no loss of information, and hence no loss of picture or sound quality. The signal may have suffered a great deal of degradation along the way from multiple causes; there may have been EMI, RFI, intrapair skew, interpair skew, return loss, rounding from capacitance, attenuation, anything - but if the bitstream gets read correctly at the end of the process, none of that degradation makes one bit (either figuratively or literally) of difference.
Now, that point often gets made into something it is not. People will sometimes claim that cable quality does not matter. The truth is more like this: if a particular cable, regardless of price and internal quality, delivers the signal in condition to be accurately read, no increase in cable quality will make things any better. However, if the cable does NOT deliver the signal in good condition, it is entirely possible that a better cable (which may or may not be more expensive) may fix the problem. This is so because, while it may seem a simple matter to deliver a series of ones and zeros by switching a voltage up and down, things get pretty funky at ultra high frequencies, and electricity does some strange and not always obvious things when one tries to run high-speed signals."
What this means: Use the cheaper cable first. If it doesn't work, buy the more expensive stuff.
Also for anyone shopping at any big box electronics stores, don't buy the $30 to $70 house branded cables. They're just basic $5 HDMI cables with slightly more durable connectors. This is coming from a guy who works part time at a big box electronics store.
Also FYI, I used to work for Sony at the Sony Store about 3 years ago. I can tell you that the $229 M-Series cable had a cost of ~$60. We made more money off of the cables than off of the hardware itself in most cases.
"As long as one appreciates the limits of the point, it's an important point to make: a digital signal is just a string of ones and zeros. When a digital signal gets through a cable, and is interpreted correctly at the other end with no dropped bits, the result is no loss of information, and hence no loss of picture or sound quality. The signal may have suffered a great deal of degradation along the way from multiple causes; there may have been EMI, RFI, intrapair skew, interpair skew, return loss, rounding from capacitance, attenuation, anything - but if the bitstream gets read correctly at the end of the process, none of that degradation makes one bit (either figuratively or literally) of difference.
Now, that point often gets made into something it is not. People will sometimes claim that cable quality does not matter. The truth is more like this: if a particular cable, regardless of price and internal quality, delivers the signal in condition to be accurately read, no increase in cable quality will make things any better. However, if the cable does NOT deliver the signal in good condition, it is entirely possible that a better cable (which may or may not be more expensive) may fix the problem. This is so because, while it may seem a simple matter to deliver a series of ones and zeros by switching a voltage up and down, things get pretty funky at ultra high frequencies, and electricity does some strange and not always obvious things when one tries to run high-speed signals."
What this means: Use the cheaper cable first. If it doesn't work, buy the more expensive stuff.
Also for anyone shopping at any big box electronics stores, don't buy the $30 to $70 house branded cables. They're just basic $5 HDMI cables with slightly more durable connectors. This is coming from a guy who works part time at a big box electronics store.
Also FYI, I used to work for Sony at the Sony Store about 3 years ago. I can tell you that the $229 M-Series cable had a cost of ~$60. We made more money off of the cables than off of the hardware itself in most cases.
12-03-12, 10:58 AM
#4625
Cut and pasted from another article:
"As long as one appreciates the limits of the point, it's an important point to make: a digital signal is just a string of ones and zeros. When a digital signal gets through a cable, and is interpreted correctly at the other end with no dropped bits, the result is no loss of information, and hence no loss of picture or sound quality. The signal may have suffered a great deal of degradation along the way from multiple causes; there may have been EMI, RFI, intrapair skew, interpair skew, return loss, rounding from capacitance, attenuation, anything - but if the bitstream gets read correctly at the end of the process, none of that degradation makes one bit (either figuratively or literally) of difference.
Now, that point often gets made into something it is not. People will sometimes claim that cable quality does not matter. The truth is more like this: if a particular cable, regardless of price and internal quality, delivers the signal in condition to be accurately read, no increase in cable quality will make things any better. However, if the cable does NOT deliver the signal in good condition, it is entirely possible that a better cable (which may or may not be more expensive) may fix the problem. This is so because, while it may seem a simple matter to deliver a series of ones and zeros by switching a voltage up and down, things get pretty funky at ultra high frequencies, and electricity does some strange and not always obvious things when one tries to run high-speed signals."
What this means: Use the cheaper cable first. If it doesn't work, buy the more expensive stuff.
Also for anyone shopping at any big box electronics stores, don't buy the $30 to $70 house branded cables. They're just basic $5 HDMI cables with slightly more durable connectors. This is coming from a guy who works part time at a big box electronics store.
Also FYI, I used to work for Sony at the Sony Store about 3 years ago. I can tell you that the $229 M-Series cable had a cost of ~$60. We made more money off of the cables than off of the hardware itself in most cases.
"As long as one appreciates the limits of the point, it's an important point to make: a digital signal is just a string of ones and zeros. When a digital signal gets through a cable, and is interpreted correctly at the other end with no dropped bits, the result is no loss of information, and hence no loss of picture or sound quality. The signal may have suffered a great deal of degradation along the way from multiple causes; there may have been EMI, RFI, intrapair skew, interpair skew, return loss, rounding from capacitance, attenuation, anything - but if the bitstream gets read correctly at the end of the process, none of that degradation makes one bit (either figuratively or literally) of difference.
Now, that point often gets made into something it is not. People will sometimes claim that cable quality does not matter. The truth is more like this: if a particular cable, regardless of price and internal quality, delivers the signal in condition to be accurately read, no increase in cable quality will make things any better. However, if the cable does NOT deliver the signal in good condition, it is entirely possible that a better cable (which may or may not be more expensive) may fix the problem. This is so because, while it may seem a simple matter to deliver a series of ones and zeros by switching a voltage up and down, things get pretty funky at ultra high frequencies, and electricity does some strange and not always obvious things when one tries to run high-speed signals."
What this means: Use the cheaper cable first. If it doesn't work, buy the more expensive stuff.
Also for anyone shopping at any big box electronics stores, don't buy the $30 to $70 house branded cables. They're just basic $5 HDMI cables with slightly more durable connectors. This is coming from a guy who works part time at a big box electronics store.
Also FYI, I used to work for Sony at the Sony Store about 3 years ago. I can tell you that the $229 M-Series cable had a cost of ~$60. We made more money off of the cables than off of the hardware itself in most cases.
12-03-12, 08:02 PM
#4630
Actually some things commonly found on import such as carbon fiber vinyl and plati-dip have made there way on to the off-road seen!. I have a full 3m dry-carbon black and gray wrap on that thing. LEDs are the next big thing now.
Last edited by 1herm4; 12-04-12 at 07:59 AM.
