Should I call BS on this?
03-16-09, 03:55 PM
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Should I call BS on this?
I'm just about at 30k today, and brought in my is350 to the dealership for the three service campaigns.
they told me my differential fluid needed to be flushed ASAP because it was full of gunk.... going to charge me $120 for it...
plus another $150 for throttle body clean up that was to include fuel additive injection that would supposedly give me better gas mileage...
I can probably do the differential drain and fill myself...but what's this throttle body clean up? Fuel additives? My first reaction was
Seems 30k is a bit early for either one of these, what do you guys think?
they told me my differential fluid needed to be flushed ASAP because it was full of gunk.... going to charge me $120 for it...
plus another $150 for throttle body clean up that was to include fuel additive injection that would supposedly give me better gas mileage...
I can probably do the differential drain and fill myself...but what's this throttle body clean up? Fuel additives? My first reaction was
Seems 30k is a bit early for either one of these, what do you guys think?
03-16-09, 04:39 PM
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I'm just about at 30k today, and brought in my is350 to the dealership for the three service campaigns.
they told me my differential fluid needed to be flushed ASAP because it was full of gunk.... going to charge me $120 for it...
plus another $150 for throttle body clean up that was to include fuel additive injection that would supposedly give me better gas mileage...
I can probably do the differential drain and fill myself...but what's this throttle body clean up? Fuel additives? My first reaction was
Seems 30k is a bit early for either one of these, what do you guys think?
they told me my differential fluid needed to be flushed ASAP because it was full of gunk.... going to charge me $120 for it...
plus another $150 for throttle body clean up that was to include fuel additive injection that would supposedly give me better gas mileage...
I can probably do the differential drain and fill myself...but what's this throttle body clean up? Fuel additives? My first reaction was
Seems 30k is a bit early for either one of these, what do you guys think?
Sounds like BS to me. The 30K service does not include a differential fluid change, according to the manual's maintenance schedule. What dealer in TX did you go to?
03-16-09, 07:03 PM
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I'm just about at 30k today, and brought in my is350 to the dealership for the three service campaigns.
they told me my differential fluid needed to be flushed ASAP because it was full of gunk.... going to charge me $120 for it...
plus another $150 for throttle body clean up that was to include fuel additive injection that would supposedly give me better gas mileage...
I can probably do the differential drain and fill myself...but what's this throttle body clean up? Fuel additives? My first reaction was
Seems 30k is a bit early for either one of these, what do you guys think?
they told me my differential fluid needed to be flushed ASAP because it was full of gunk.... going to charge me $120 for it...
plus another $150 for throttle body clean up that was to include fuel additive injection that would supposedly give me better gas mileage...
I can probably do the differential drain and fill myself...but what's this throttle body clean up? Fuel additives? My first reaction was
Seems 30k is a bit early for either one of these, what do you guys think?
As noted, the car manual -never- calls for a diff fluid change... and there's no reason your TB would have a problem at 30k.
If you want to check it takes like 5-10 minutes to get to the TB (same steps as swapping an intake on really) and a can of TB cleaner is like 5 bucks at autozone.
03-16-09, 08:52 PM
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honestly... i think you SHOULDN'T EVER take your car in for 'service'... just do all the maintainence yourself OR if your unsure of your skillz call up a local CL member in your area to give you a hand and buy him lunch 
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03-17-09, 04:59 AM
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I'm just about at 30k today, and brought in my is350 to the dealership for the three service campaigns.
they told me my differential fluid needed to be flushed ASAP because it was full of gunk.... going to charge me $120 for it...
plus another $150 for throttle body clean up that was to include fuel additive injection that would supposedly give me better gas mileage...
I can probably do the differential drain and fill myself...but what's this throttle body clean up? Fuel additives? My first reaction was
Seems 30k is a bit early for either one of these, what do you guys think?
they told me my differential fluid needed to be flushed ASAP because it was full of gunk.... going to charge me $120 for it...
plus another $150 for throttle body clean up that was to include fuel additive injection that would supposedly give me better gas mileage...
I can probably do the differential drain and fill myself...but what's this throttle body clean up? Fuel additives? My first reaction was
Seems 30k is a bit early for either one of these, what do you guys think?
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03-17-09, 07:38 AM
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I looked in the manual for my 06 IS250AWD. It says IS get a diff oil change at 60k. not sure about your newer manuals.
Even so... the differential oil service at my dealership was 54 dollars. Just got it done last week... the receipt probably is still warm from the printer.
Even so... the differential oil service at my dealership was 54 dollars. Just got it done last week... the receipt probably is still warm from the printer.
03-17-09, 07:45 AM
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I looked in the manual for my 06 IS250AWD. It says IS get a diff oil change at 60k. not sure about your newer manuals.
Even so... the differential oil service at my dealership was 54 dollars. Just got it done last week... the receipt probably is still warm from the printer.
Even so... the differential oil service at my dealership was 54 dollars. Just got it done last week... the receipt probably is still warm from the printer.
Which has differentials the IS350 does not have at all.
The 350 (any year) doesn't call for a diff fluid change, ever.
03-17-09, 08:06 AM
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A wise owner who wants to maximize his investment and minimize his depreciation will always maintain his car over and beyond OEM minimum standards for better performance in the later years of ownership. Can't undo premature wear except by installing expensive parts and paying for labor. Fluids and filters are much less expensive on the long run.
I would go for a synthetic differential fill every 30K.
Only BG44K and Redline SI-1 are any good as FI cleaners. Even straight Techron is much weaker. All the rest are snake oil.
With a can of Berryman Chem Tool and some rags, you too can clean your TB with a little care.
Removing it and using a Dremel will make it new. Shouldn't be bad enough at 30K with annual air filter changes.
03-17-09, 08:36 AM
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This is because Lexus has not interest in how your car performs past warranty expiration, nor does any other OEM.
A wise owner who wants to maximize his investment and minimize his depreciation will always maintain his car over and beyond OEM minimum standards for better performance in the later years of ownership. Can't undo premature wear except by installing expensive parts and paying for labor. Fluids and filters are much less expensive on the long run.
I would go for a synthetic differential fill every 30K.
A wise owner who wants to maximize his investment and minimize his depreciation will always maintain his car over and beyond OEM minimum standards for better performance in the later years of ownership. Can't undo premature wear except by installing expensive parts and paying for labor. Fluids and filters are much less expensive on the long run.
I would go for a synthetic differential fill every 30K.
I think you grossly overestimate the amount of wear going on in there- especially with it not being a real LSD.
Hell, the -transmission- fluid doesn't even get changed on the 2IS (automatic), and it certainly sees much harsher temps and conditions than the diff does.
As noted in the thread on doing the diff fluid change, do it if it helps you sleep at night, but you're as likely to end up with wear by introducing wear-causing contaminants changing it all the time as you are if you just leave it alone like the manufacturer suggests.
03-17-09, 08:46 AM
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one of my buddies is a service advisor, he informed me on how he works on comission. one of the best advises he gave me was when i needed something to go straight to the service manager and ask them what you need.
Other then that read the manual and see what services you really need. if the manual dosn't say you need it then dont do it.
I always have service advisors trying to call me to BS me when i take my viper to service. The prices they give me is almost double what the list price is.
Other then that read the manual and see what services you really need. if the manual dosn't say you need it then dont do it.
I always have service advisors trying to call me to BS me when i take my viper to service. The prices they give me is almost double what the list price is.
03-17-09, 08:50 AM
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This is because Lexus has not interest in how your car performs past warranty expiration, nor does any other OEM.
A wise owner who wants to maximize his investment and minimize his depreciation will always maintain his car over and beyond OEM minimum standards for better performance in the later years of ownership. Can't undo premature wear except by installing expensive parts and paying for labor. Fluids and filters are much less expensive on the long run.
I would go for a synthetic differential fill every 30K
A wise owner who wants to maximize his investment and minimize his depreciation will always maintain his car over and beyond OEM minimum standards for better performance in the later years of ownership. Can't undo premature wear except by installing expensive parts and paying for labor. Fluids and filters are much less expensive on the long run.
I would go for a synthetic differential fill every 30K
