New wheels, new setup, new look
#91
#92
It is actually lighter than stock 18. It weighs 24lbs front 27lbs rear. Stock 18 weighs 28lbs front and 30lbs rear. No idea about work's.
Good deal. You know I've heard of Linea Corse, but don't really know much about them. How does this brand compare to premium brands like Volk & BBS? I'm kinda leery b/c of the low price. How's the strength of the wheel?
#93
IMO low price ≠ no good..
#95
Linea Corse is made in the Phillipines at the same place that makes Rota wheels. I believe they're cast just like Rota so they aren't really in the same market as a forged wheel like Volk or BBS. That said there are plenty of cast wheels out there that work just fine for OEM and aftermarket applications and they are much more affordable. They just won't be as light weight as a forged wheel because they need more material to offer the same strength. So as long as it's well designed the wheel should function just the same as another. Why is the stock OEM wheel so darn heavy? Because it's cast and Lexus specified the design a certain way so it would be strong enough. For most people wheels are all about the looks and style so whether it weighs a few pounds more or less than the stock wheel doesn't really matter that much.
#96
Linea Corse is made in the Phillipines at the same place that makes Rota wheels. I believe they're cast just like Rota so they aren't really in the same market as a forged wheel like Volk or BBS. That said there are plenty of cast wheels out there that work just fine for OEM and aftermarket applications and they are much more affordable. They just won't be as light weight as a forged wheel because they need more material to offer the same strength. So as long as it's well designed the wheel should function just the same as another. Why is the stock OEM wheel so darn heavy? Because it's cast and Lexus specified the design a certain way so it would be strong enough. For most people wheels are all about the looks and style so whether it weighs a few pounds more or less than the stock wheel doesn't really matter that much.
#97
Linea Corse is made in the Phillipines at the same place that makes Rota wheels. I believe they're cast just like Rota so they aren't really in the same market as a forged wheel like Volk or BBS. That said there are plenty of cast wheels out there that work just fine for OEM and aftermarket applications and they are much more affordable. They just won't be as light weight as a forged wheel because they need more material to offer the same strength. So as long as it's well designed the wheel should function just the same as another. Why is the stock OEM wheel so darn heavy? Because it's cast and Lexus specified the design a certain way so it would be strong enough. For most people wheels are all about the looks and style so whether it weighs a few pounds more or less than the stock wheel doesn't really matter that much.
So it's safe to assume that the similar looking Work Varianza T1's are a much stronger & higher quality wheel compared to the Linea Corse's?
Me personally, I am concerned about performance FIRST. I do not want a heavier aftermarket wheel. I know from experience, lighter wheels can make a big difference.
I do like the look of the design of this wheel and if they are indeed lighter than oem, priced significantly less, and strong enough, they look like winners in my book. Does anybody know what the Work Varianza T1's weigh? Also just to confirm, for these wheels to clear the 350's brakes, you MUST add spacers. correct?
Last edited by S to the K; 03-29-09 at 03:06 PM.
#98
So it's safe to assume that the similar looking Work Varianza T1's are a much stronger & higher quality wheel compared to the Linea Corse's?
Myself personally, I am concerned about performance FIRST. I do not want a heavier aftermarket wheel. I know from experience, lighter wheels can make a big difference.
I do like the look of the design of this wheel and if they are indeed lighter than oem, priced significantly less, and strong enough, than they look like winners in my book. Does anybody know what the Work Varianza T1's weigh? Also just to confirm, for these wheels to clear the 350's brakes, you MUST add spacers. correct?
Myself personally, I am concerned about performance FIRST. I do not want a heavier aftermarket wheel. I know from experience, lighter wheels can make a big difference.
I do like the look of the design of this wheel and if they are indeed lighter than oem, priced significantly less, and strong enough, than they look like winners in my book. Does anybody know what the Work Varianza T1's weigh? Also just to confirm, for these wheels to clear the 350's brakes, you MUST add spacers. correct?
edit: only the front brakes, the rear clears fine without spacers.
#100
So it's safe to assume that the similar looking Work Varianza T1's are a much stronger & higher quality wheel compared to the Linea Corse's?
Myself personally, I am concerned about performance FIRST. I do not want a heavier aftermarket wheel. I know from experience, lighter wheels can make a big difference.
I do like the look of the design of this wheel and if they are indeed lighter than oem, priced significantly less, and strong enough, than they look like winners in my book. Does anybody know what the Work Varianza T1's weigh? Also just to confirm, for these wheels to clear the 350's brakes, you MUST add spacers. correct?
Myself personally, I am concerned about performance FIRST. I do not want a heavier aftermarket wheel. I know from experience, lighter wheels can make a big difference.
I do like the look of the design of this wheel and if they are indeed lighter than oem, priced significantly less, and strong enough, than they look like winners in my book. Does anybody know what the Work Varianza T1's weigh? Also just to confirm, for these wheels to clear the 350's brakes, you MUST add spacers. correct?
I just found this 2007 interview with the president of Work Wheels, Takeshi Tanaka:
Although it carries a sporting image and spirit the entire Emotion line is cast. What determines whether a wheel is forged or cast?
Tanaka-san: When it comes to racing, we support Super Taikyu and Super GT teams with forged Emotions. If you’re a car guy looking for a wheel and you’re not [racing on the track], you really don’t need a forged wheel. For the competitive purposes wheels, forged is better. For the street a cast wheel has more absorption qualities. When it comes to racing, a forged wheel is a must--this reduces overall weight and rotational mass.
But for any other market it doesn’t have to be forged, this isn’t necessarily a requirement. Pricing does factor into processes, however. Even though the process is much more costly, more expensive wheels should be forged, because of the expectation from the customer.
Tanaka-san: When it comes to racing, we support Super Taikyu and Super GT teams with forged Emotions. If you’re a car guy looking for a wheel and you’re not [racing on the track], you really don’t need a forged wheel. For the competitive purposes wheels, forged is better. For the street a cast wheel has more absorption qualities. When it comes to racing, a forged wheel is a must--this reduces overall weight and rotational mass.
But for any other market it doesn’t have to be forged, this isn’t necessarily a requirement. Pricing does factor into processes, however. Even though the process is much more costly, more expensive wheels should be forged, because of the expectation from the customer.
there he said it -- a cast wheel is just fine for the street, arguably even better due to its absorption qualities.
I also read this other article posted @ OG-Made where they tested a lightweight wheel vs. a standard one on a track and found that stiffness and rigidity mattered more than weight: http://og-made.com/archives/category/ame-technology
Their conclusion: Making a wheel light at the cost of rigidity actually hurts the performance of the car overall, resulting in slower lap times.
Sorry to take this so far off-topic but it's been an area of interest for me as I researched what wheels to get and I've put a lot of thought into it. To go back on topic, I've seen Ricky's wheels in person and they look good!
#102
I'm not sure that the Works are any stronger or higher quality. They have name brand cachet and they are two-piece design custom made to order in Japan, but I couldn't tell from the Works site whether they are forged or not. My guess is not, most forged wheels are strongly marketed as such if they are. On the D2 site they list one type of Works wheel (Rezax) that is forged, the rest are not listed as such. But people like to say their wheels are JDM not made in the Phillipines even if they look the same right?
I just found this 2007 interview with the president of Work Wheels, Takeshi Tanaka:
link to full interview: http://forums.jdmcentral.net/archive...hp/t-1572.html
there he said it -- a cast wheel is just fine for the street, arguably even better due to its absorption qualities.
I also read this other article posted @ OG-Made where they tested a lightweight wheel vs. a standard one on a track and found that stiffness and rigidity mattered more than weight: http://og-made.com/archives/category/ame-technology
Their conclusion: Making a wheel light at the cost of rigidity actually hurts the performance of the car overall, resulting in slower lap times.
Sorry to take this so far off-topic but it's been an area of interest for me as I researched what wheels to get and I've put a lot of thought into it. To go back on topic, I've seen Ricky's wheels in person and they look good!
I just found this 2007 interview with the president of Work Wheels, Takeshi Tanaka:
link to full interview: http://forums.jdmcentral.net/archive...hp/t-1572.html
there he said it -- a cast wheel is just fine for the street, arguably even better due to its absorption qualities.
I also read this other article posted @ OG-Made where they tested a lightweight wheel vs. a standard one on a track and found that stiffness and rigidity mattered more than weight: http://og-made.com/archives/category/ame-technology
Their conclusion: Making a wheel light at the cost of rigidity actually hurts the performance of the car overall, resulting in slower lap times.
Sorry to take this so far off-topic but it's been an area of interest for me as I researched what wheels to get and I've put a lot of thought into it. To go back on topic, I've seen Ricky's wheels in person and they look good!
#103
I'm not sure that the Works are any stronger or higher quality. They have name brand cachet and they are two-piece design custom made to order in Japan, but I couldn't tell from the Works site whether they are forged or not. My guess is not, most forged wheels are strongly marketed as such if they are. On the D2 site they list one type of Works wheel (Rezax) that is forged, the rest are not listed as such. But people like to say their wheels are JDM not made in the Phillipines even if they look the same right?
I just found this 2007 interview with the president of Work Wheels, Takeshi Tanaka:
link to full interview: http://forums.jdmcentral.net/archive...hp/t-1572.html
there he said it -- a cast wheel is just fine for the street, arguably even better due to its absorption qualities.
I also read this other article posted @ OG-Made where they tested a lightweight wheel vs. a standard one on a track and found that stiffness and rigidity mattered more than weight: http://og-made.com/archives/category/ame-technology
Their conclusion: Making a wheel light at the cost of rigidity actually hurts the performance of the car overall, resulting in slower lap times.
Sorry to take this so far off-topic but it's been an area of interest for me as I researched what wheels to get and I've put a lot of thought into it. To go back on topic, I've seen Ricky's wheels in person and they look good!
I just found this 2007 interview with the president of Work Wheels, Takeshi Tanaka:
link to full interview: http://forums.jdmcentral.net/archive...hp/t-1572.html
there he said it -- a cast wheel is just fine for the street, arguably even better due to its absorption qualities.
I also read this other article posted @ OG-Made where they tested a lightweight wheel vs. a standard one on a track and found that stiffness and rigidity mattered more than weight: http://og-made.com/archives/category/ame-technology
Their conclusion: Making a wheel light at the cost of rigidity actually hurts the performance of the car overall, resulting in slower lap times.
Sorry to take this so far off-topic but it's been an area of interest for me as I researched what wheels to get and I've put a lot of thought into it. To go back on topic, I've seen Ricky's wheels in person and they look good!
BTW, just for everyone's edification - Work wheels (street use, publicly sold wheels, not the ones they only supply to GT cars and such) are NOT forged. There are only three companies in Japan that have the forging equipment required to make true forged wheels. BBS, Rays, and one other company that escapes my memory (because they don't sell wheels, they private-label them for many other "forged wheel" retailers).
Javier