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Old 03-31-09 | 07:50 PM
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As I read this a thought occurred to me about checking your gas mileage. I've not tried this yet but it might be interesting to test out.

My portable Garmin Nav has a built in trip computer, and I find it very accurate for MPH and Miles driven. If you had one, or could borrow one, for a tank full you could find out how many miles you've driven and manually calculate your MPG at your next fill up.

Might also be interesting to see the difference in miles from the GPS to your ODO.

Just a thought.
Old 03-31-09 | 08:14 PM
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Dont sweat it Mike! I too will be going staggerd.. 20x8.5 and 20x10 lol
Old 03-31-09 | 09:42 PM
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I dont have a gps unit, but I will google map my destination next time then fill in a few gallons and see how it goes from there..

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Dont sweat it Mike! I too will be going staggerd.. 20x8.5 and 20x10 lol
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Old 03-31-09 | 10:15 PM
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maybe a little bit drop only
Old 04-01-09 | 12:51 AM
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Originally Posted by mikez
I am running same diameter front and rears tho, thats why I ask why cant people run stagger on AWD?
because the tire sizes you posted would change the diameter of the wheel/tires
Old 04-01-09 | 01:07 AM
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lol. my average on this tank of gas was 10.4 mpg... so i wouldnt worry
Old 04-01-09 | 04:37 AM
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Originally Posted by btwanky
lol. my average on this tank of gas was 10.4 mpg... so i wouldnt worry
This is why I haven't gotten the is-f

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Old 04-01-09 | 04:48 AM
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i've seen my mileage go down also. with the larger wheels there will be a larger rolling resistance. check your pressures that can also have an effect on mileage.

it is fine to stagger an awd car as long as the front and rears have the same rolling diameter. i am running the same size tires and the front to rear rolling diameter at .01% difference. with upgrading rims the overall diameter from the stocks of course will increase slightly. since this is the case i have noticed my revs drop on the highway about 300rpms. the car knows it's traveling at xx speed and knows what the fuel flow rate is.

i guess the lower mpg is all about looking ballin' haha.

i'm just gonna live with it, i'm averaging 20mpg mixed 50/50 where before i was at maybe 23mpg. and that's at about 80mph on the highway.
Old 04-01-09 | 05:08 AM
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Insignificant unless its from 255 rear to 305-325 rear.
Old 04-01-09 | 04:46 PM
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Finally went staggered on my AWD today. Plain OEM R18 rims from IS250 Sport and Michelin Pilot sport sp2 tires 225/40 front and 255/35 rear. Drives really nice.
There shouldn't be any troubles if you keep the wheels diameter close to equal. For example BWM 325xi (AWD) goes with 225/40/18 front and 255/35/18 rear in stock. Default torque dispension for Lexus is 30 front 70 rear, for BWM 37 front and 63 rear. So I think we should be fine with our AWD staggered properly
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But like Kurtz and I mentioned before, there is MOST LIKELY a BIAS programmed into the ECU for staggered setups that come stock.

But hey, it's your car.
Old 04-01-09 | 05:31 PM
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Thats weird. i'm on 19's and i run 225 fronts and 265 rears and my mpg is just fine. Its like i'm on stock. But the most important thing to me, is checking the tire pressure. I'm always at 40psi, and i check it weekly. Remember if you have a three piece wheel it will always leak somehow if you let it sit too long. But anyways, i think if you drive a luxury car (Lexus) you shouldnt be complaining about gas. but thats just me
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Originally Posted by Phil888
Thats weird. i'm on 19's and i run 225 fronts and 265 rears and my mpg is just fine. Its like i'm on stock. But the most important thing to me, is checking the tire pressure. I'm always at 40psi, and i check it weekly. Remember if you have a three piece wheel it will always leak somehow if you let it sit too long. But anyways, i think if you drive a luxury car (Lexus) you shouldnt be complaining about gas. but thats just me
Yep I maintain mine at 40psi at all times, maybe its a lost cause for me. I work during college to pay for my car so the gas money after car payment, mods, and girlfriend becomes a rather fine art of driving slow, saving money, and skipping on lunch during the day


Originally Posted by kayotik
But like Kurtz and I mentioned before, there is MOST LIKELY a BIAS programmed into the ECU for staggered setups that come stock.

But hey, it's your car.
If you want to talk about the "programmed" bias then you should think about the % error the bias will have to over look due to tire pressure difference front and rear causing different rolling diameter, tire wear front and rear causing different rolling resistance front and rear, front and rear load to cause different "deflation" in the front and rear tires, all of those are no difference than the .7" inch in rolling diameter difference on my setup, its all within a given threshold.

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Old 04-01-09 | 08:25 PM
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^^^ oh ok, i can respect that bro.. My bad.. Damn the girlfriends..lol jk jk
Old 04-03-09 | 08:12 AM
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Originally Posted by mikez
I am not sure if its the way I've been driving (which havent changed much cept once or twice I push it a little to explore some new found grip), my avg fuel consumption per tank went from 29 ish to 24 ish on a local/highway mix.

My consumption for mostly highway went from 31 ish to a nice 25 mpg.



My tires were 225 all around and now its 235 front and 275 rears.

Dang if I gotta fill up weekly I might have to retire this from its daily obligations
dont' feel bad bro... i'm running 235's all around and I only get 21mpg avg.



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