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Old 03-31-09, 03:20 PM
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Default Wide wheels decreases MPG significantly?

I am not sure if its the way I've been driving (which havent changed much cept once or twice I push it a little to explore some new found grip), my avg fuel consumption per tank went from 29 ish to 24 ish on a local/highway mix.

My consumption for mostly highway went from 31 ish to a nice 25 mpg.



My tires were 225 all around and now its 235 front and 275 rears.

Dang if I gotta fill up weekly I might have to retire this from its daily obligations
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lmao I wish I even got that good of MPG. I drive this b like I stole it lmao. Once I get my new wheels however this will not be the story.
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are you still on stock wheels?
Old 03-31-09, 03:31 PM
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It could be. I mean you have to factor in weight of tires, rims, what pressure are the tires etc.
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It's all in your head...your wheels have nothing to do with your mileage.
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Your tire sizes are messing up the speedometer reading.

Why would anyone with AWD go with staggered sizes
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oh true.... the tire size does mess up the odo and speedo thus my mpg is off... crap cuz I really rely on that too

I am running work emotion xd9, which are lighter than stock so that shouldnt be an issue.

Why cant people run stagger on awd? lambo does stagger on their awd, so does porsche etc etc

Oh yeah Andrew, wait till you drive slow, like real slow, keeping the rev under 2k slow. Our cars are very good at it lol, loads of loads of pissed off people today cuz I was trying to bring up my MPG

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I'm thinking it has to do with how the AWD system is hooked up to the ECU. For example, the IS250AWD would have "equal diameter wheels+tires" on all sides to calculate everything. The Lambo or Porsche may have programming to account for the staggered sizes? I don't know.
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well i don't drive an IS.. but my mpg has seen a significant drop after i put my wheels on, i don't know if it's all in my head, maybe it's how i've been driving now that the good weather's here.. this last tank i've been driving like a grand ma, let's see what i score
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well put it this way, no one bought an IS for the gas mileage...just drive it.
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Originally Posted by kayotik
I'm thinking it has to do with how the AWD system is hooked up to the ECU. For example, the IS250AWD would have "equal diameter wheels+tires" on all sides to calculate everything. The Lambo or Porsche may have programming to account for the staggered sizes? I don't know.
I think they all have the same overall rolling diameter as well, or they just take the reading from either the front or rear wheels. I just have larger diameter both front and back compare to the OEM by almost 1", so I guess that throws it off a lot.

Originally Posted by chrIS250
well put it this way, no one bought an IS for the gas mileage...just drive it.
I am a hypermiler in my AWD, dont judge me When I get poor MPG I get really pissed off and bothered about it, just like when someone sit in my back seat and dont strap my seat pillows back in, or when someone takes off their seatbelt and dont place it flush against the pillar, or someone touches garfield and dont place him back right..... OCD -__-
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Be careful when running staggered on an AWD car with different sized tires. You can ruing the AWD system by causing it to bind.
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Originally Posted by mikez
just like when someone sit in my back seat and dont strap my seat pillows back in, or when someone takes off their seatbelt and dont place it flush against the pillar, or someone touches garfield and dont place him back right..... OCD -__-
LOL... I'm like that too!
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Originally Posted by mikez
Why cant people run stagger on awd?

Because it'll ruin the differential.

A car maker might design the system for different sized wheels from the factory, and program the appropriate bias into the AWD system.

But the IS250 isn't such a car. It expects -identical- total wheel/tire diameter front and rear, and if you run it without identical front/rear diameter you'll be replacing some very expensive drive train parts eventually.
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I am running same diameter front and rears tho, thats why I ask why cant people run stagger on AWD?


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