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hub centric ring needed with new Works?

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Old 04-06-09, 07:52 PM
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awesome, probably one of the most productive threads I've started haha.

now what about lug nuts, will any 12x1.5 work with the works? i was thinking of RAYS or mcgard.

from what I've read, doesn't really matter if you go open/closed or short/extended?
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Originally Posted by vtrusty
awesome, probably one of the most productive threads I've started haha.

now what about lug nuts, will any 12x1.5 work with the works? i was thinking of RAYS or mcgard.

from what I've read, doesn't really matter if you go open/closed or short/extended?
Lug nuts is ALL preference. Whether it's color, short/long. I personally like the extended ones cause you have a smaller chance of hitting the wheels or dropping them on the wheels. BTW if you're interested I have a set of Rays extended black ones PM me if you are.
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yea, any 12x1.5 should fit your Works. Personally I'm using a set of Rays shorty lugnuts with my Works.

Its all preference. From a functional standpoint closed is the better choice since open leaves the threads susceptible to rust. IMO extended and neo-chrome are a bit ricey.
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Actually, you need the 60' tapered lugs if I am not mistaken, the stock are flat and therefore will not work (properly)
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Originally Posted by iSuxeL
Sweet! Guess I'm getting some plastic ones LOL
Its not plastic... its polyurethane

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Originally Posted by VikH
The aluminum ones can sieze to the hub.


I got the 73-60.1 for my Volks from Discount. Might as well for $15.
If you're going to need the rings for aftermarket wheels why would you care if the ring seized on the hub? You're going to reuse them anyways right? Anyways I'm getting the HIGH QUALITY POLY CARBON LOL

Do these look good? They're really cheap too!
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/73-60...051510007r3653

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^Those are fine. BTW, the seizing commonly caused by the aluminum ones is merely a by-product of the bigger issue, the corrosion of the hub.

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Ahhhh....you sir are correct! Thanks Javy!
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Originally Posted by mikez
Yeah all Work wheels are 73mm diameter in hub
not true My T1S and the Works on there way do not require rings. They are 60.1. Only down fall is I am limited to our bolt patter and 60.1....off the shelf they may require depending on where and who you get them from. Really doesnt matter.

I agree go to Discount and get them. I have never once had a problem in the past and they are cheap.
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Originally Posted by passnu2
not true My T1S and the Works on there way do not require rings. They are 60.1. Only down fall is I am limited to our bolt patter and 60.1....off the shelf they may require depending on where and who you get them from. Really doesnt matter.

I agree go to Discount and get them. I have never once had a problem in the past and they are cheap.
I'm lost, your T1S didn't need the rings?
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Originally Posted by iSuxeL
If you're going to need the rings for aftermarket wheels why would you care if the ring seized on the hub? You're going to reuse them anyways right? Anyways I'm getting the HIGH QUALITY POLY CARBON LOL

Do these look good? They're really cheap too!
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/73-60...051510007r3653
Nope. When i switch back to my winter wheels (OEM) I will need to remove the hub ring since the hub will be too big.
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Originally Posted by iSuxeL
I'm lost, your T1S didn't need the rings?
I think if you contact Work before your wheels are made, you can custom make the hub size and the bolt pattern.
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Exclamation BILLET ALUMINUM Hub-Centric Ring Adapters

Speaking of the Aluminum vs. Polycarbonate Plastic Hub-Centric Ring Adapter debate, I found these BILLET ALUMINUM Hub-Centric Ring Adapters for $100/set here:

http://www.motorsport-tech.com/hub_rings.html

Can anyone post clear photos of the mass-produced $24.99 "plastic" and $34.99 "aluminum" Hub-Centric Ring Adapters sold by "1010tires" (or similar) for long term group benefit of having a visual comparison with the custom-order American-made CNC "Billet Aluminum" design above...?:

http://www.1010tires.com/hubrings.asp


Speaking of some stating the propensity of "Aluminum Hub-Centric ring adapters to 'seize' to the Hub" (via oxidation and/or thermal fatigue), I found this link addressing the seizing issue via the use of 'anti-seize' compound:

http://www.billetprototypes.com/Hub_...g_Install.html
http://shop.billetprototypes.com/pro...c?productId=93

Engineering Overkill?? Perhaps.
They are $65 more than the aluminum ones at 1010tires.

I have to do a bit of research on the oxidative and thermal fatigue properties of the (nonspecified) type of aluminum used by "1010tires" vs. the type of billet aluminum used by "Billet Prototypes" above.

It is nice that 'Billet Prototypes will CNC mill to whatever precise specification you request However, the ones from "1010tires" may already be more than adequate with regards to original manufacturing tolerances

Again, it would be nice if someone can post some photos of the aluminum and/or plastic Hub-Centric Adapter Rings from "1010tires" for visual comparison with those produced by "Billet Prototypes".

However, it seems to me that Hub-Centric Ring Adapters have a CRITICAL role to play and are not something one would want to risk with gradually falling out of original tolerances to thereby slowly place hidden undue mechanical stress upon very costly and safety-critical suspension components.
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