Staggered setup on AWD ! - The Mother Thread - !
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This thread is here for a reason. Of course there are problems running a staggered setup on an AWD drivetrain, but they usually only arise when the staggering is done incorrectly. Basically, keep the front and rear rolling diameter as close to the same as possible. For example, my fronts are 235/35/19, and my rears are 275/30/19. This translates into a .08% difference front to rear. Haven't come across any problems yet in the 3 or 4 months I've been running this setup.
Also, make sure all 4 tires are the same so they have the same tread pattern, and also make sure they all have about the same amount of treadwear remaining.
Also, make sure all 4 tires are the same so they have the same tread pattern, and also make sure they all have about the same amount of treadwear remaining.
Last edited by sm1ke; 08-13-13 at 03:04 PM.
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This thread is here for a reason. Of course there are problems running a staggered setup on an AWD drivetrain, but they usually only arise when the staggering is done incorrectly. Basically, keep the front and rear rolling diameter as close to the same as possible. For example, my fronts are 235/35/19, and my rears are 275/30/19. This translates into a .08% difference front to rear. Haven't come across any problems yet in the 3 or 4 months I've been running this setup.
Also, make sure all 4 tires are the same so they have the same tread pattern, and also make sure they all have about the same amount of treadwear remaining.
Also, make sure all 4 tires are the same so they have the same tread pattern, and also make sure they all have about the same amount of treadwear remaining.
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So Im at the mechanic right now trying to install my ISF 19 inch rims on my is 250awd, and the mechanic is giving me a lot of doubts.
The rims are as follows in the pic an the tires are
front: 225/40/19
back 255/35/19
I have read that the 18s run fine with it below, and most people with the same setup with none AWD is doing well with it, so Im guessing it should be ok. What do you guys think.. a quick response would be amazing ... since my car is probably on the hoist as we speak ! lol
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My AWD runs on 18' stockies 225/40 front and 255/35 rear. Perfect size and zero problems
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Mods: JDM LED mirrors, 4300k HID lows, 5000k IPF halogen highs, Polarg LED parking lights, DRL off, 4300k HID fogs, hacked dashboard ECU, complete measurement conversion, fogs on without lowbeam, 82% tint all around, staggered OEM Sport R18 wheels
Read more: https://www.clublexus.com/forums/is-...#ixzz2cjGdHauV
The rims are as follows in the pic an the tires are
front: 225/40/19
back 255/35/19
I have read that the 18s run fine with it below, and most people with the same setup with none AWD is doing well with it, so Im guessing it should be ok. What do you guys think.. a quick response would be amazing ... since my car is probably on the hoist as we speak ! lol
![](https://www.clublexus.com/forums/attachments/is-f/189826d1288186126-urgent-size-and-offset-eof-isf-wheel-is-f-wheels.jpg)
My AWD runs on 18' stockies 225/40 front and 255/35 rear. Perfect size and zero problems
__________________
--From Russia with love--
'06 Lexus IS250 AWD (unofficially imported )
Mods: JDM LED mirrors, 4300k HID lows, 5000k IPF halogen highs, Polarg LED parking lights, DRL off, 4300k HID fogs, hacked dashboard ECU, complete measurement conversion, fogs on without lowbeam, 82% tint all around, staggered OEM Sport R18 wheels
Read more: https://www.clublexus.com/forums/is-...#ixzz2cjGdHauV
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So Im at the mechanic right now trying to install my ISF 19 inch rims on my is 250awd, and the mechanic is giving me a lot of doubts.
The rims are as follows in the pic an the tires are
front: 225/40/19
back 255/35/19
I have read that the 18s run fine with it below, and most people with the same setup with none AWD is doing well with it, so Im guessing it should be ok. What do you guys think.. a quick response would be amazing ... since my car is probably on the hoist as we speak ! lol
![](https://www.clublexus.com/forums/attachments/is-f/189826d1288186126-urgent-size-and-offset-eof-isf-wheel-is-f-wheels.jpg)
My AWD runs on 18' stockies 225/40 front and 255/35 rear. Perfect size and zero problems
__________________
--From Russia with love--
'06 Lexus IS250 AWD (unofficially imported )
Mods: JDM LED mirrors, 4300k HID lows, 5000k IPF halogen highs, Polarg LED parking lights, DRL off, 4300k HID fogs, hacked dashboard ECU, complete measurement conversion, fogs on without lowbeam, 82% tint all around, staggered OEM Sport R18 wheels
Read more: https://www.clublexus.com/forums/is-...#ixzz2cjGdHauV
The rims are as follows in the pic an the tires are
front: 225/40/19
back 255/35/19
I have read that the 18s run fine with it below, and most people with the same setup with none AWD is doing well with it, so Im guessing it should be ok. What do you guys think.. a quick response would be amazing ... since my car is probably on the hoist as we speak ! lol
![](https://www.clublexus.com/forums/attachments/is-f/189826d1288186126-urgent-size-and-offset-eof-isf-wheel-is-f-wheels.jpg)
My AWD runs on 18' stockies 225/40 front and 255/35 rear. Perfect size and zero problems
__________________
--From Russia with love--
'06 Lexus IS250 AWD (unofficially imported )
Mods: JDM LED mirrors, 4300k HID lows, 5000k IPF halogen highs, Polarg LED parking lights, DRL off, 4300k HID fogs, hacked dashboard ECU, complete measurement conversion, fogs on without lowbeam, 82% tint all around, staggered OEM Sport R18 wheels
Read more: https://www.clublexus.com/forums/is-...#ixzz2cjGdHauV
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I just installed 245/30/20 front and 275/30/20 rear and I haven't had any lights come on. The only issue that I have run into is some bad rubbing in the rear. Has anyone ever tried this setup?
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Originally Posted by DeanIS
Hi,
GL with the sale of your wheels. I just received my wheels. They are 19x8.5 ET35 and 19x9.5 ET40. These will be going on my wife's 2010 AWD. Should I be running 235/35/19 and 265/30/19 OR 225/35/19 and 265/30/19. I do not want to run 275 in the rears because I do not want to deal with fender work. Any input would be greatly appreciated.
Dean
GL with the sale of your wheels. I just received my wheels. They are 19x8.5 ET35 and 19x9.5 ET40. These will be going on my wife's 2010 AWD. Should I be running 235/35/19 and 265/30/19 OR 225/35/19 and 265/30/19. I do not want to run 275 in the rears because I do not want to deal with fender work. Any input would be greatly appreciated.
Dean
Please take note that my wheels are 10.5 in the rear with a +43 offset, and I'm running 275/30s. I think your wheels would be less aggressive than mine by about 4-5mm. On my setup, there is no rubbing whatsoever, and my fenders have not been touched yet. I'm lowered on BC coilovers to maybe 1/4 finger gap in the rear. The natural camber is just enough to ensure that if I do hit a bump, the tire doesn't hit the fender. With that said, my fronts are 8 wide with a +37 offset, and have 235/35 mounted on them. They rub on turns and dips at the same 1/4 finger gap, but it's just the fender liner.
What are you using to lower the car, if anything?
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thank you your reply. I just lowered the car on Tanabe NF springs. Very conservative drop. This is the wife's car so I do not want to go too crazy. Will I be needing an alignment? Been reading about guys with the Fsport springs and not getting an alignment because it's less 1" drop.
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If you're dead set on 265 in the rear, I would suggest 225/35 up front and 265/30 in the rear. The difference in rolling diameter between the two is only .24% compared to using 235/35 up front, which is .87%. Not a huge difference, but I would minimize the risk as much as possible.
Please take note that my wheels are 10.5 in the rear with a +43 offset, and I'm running 275/30s. I think your wheels would be less aggressive than mine by about 4-5mm. On my setup, there is no rubbing whatsoever, and my fenders have not been touched yet. I'm lowered on BC coilovers to maybe 1/4 finger gap in the rear. The natural camber is just enough to ensure that if I do hit a bump, the tire doesn't hit the fender. With that said, my fronts are 8 wide with a +37 offset, and have 235/35 mounted on them. They rub on turns and dips at the same 1/4 finger gap, but it's just the fender liner.
What are you using to lower the car, if anything?
Please take note that my wheels are 10.5 in the rear with a +43 offset, and I'm running 275/30s. I think your wheels would be less aggressive than mine by about 4-5mm. On my setup, there is no rubbing whatsoever, and my fenders have not been touched yet. I'm lowered on BC coilovers to maybe 1/4 finger gap in the rear. The natural camber is just enough to ensure that if I do hit a bump, the tire doesn't hit the fender. With that said, my fronts are 8 wide with a +37 offset, and have 235/35 mounted on them. They rub on turns and dips at the same 1/4 finger gap, but it's just the fender liner.
What are you using to lower the car, if anything?
i'm thinking of 9/10.5 with 235/35 275/30
but having trouble deciding on offset (for flush)
preferably no fender rolling
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19x8 +37, 235/35/19
19x10.5 +43, 275/30/19
Unfortunately the OEM equipment only allows for a little bit of camber correction up front, and none in the rear. Before alignment, fronts were at about -2 degrees, rears were at -2.3 and -2.5 degrees. I was able to get the fronts to -1.5 degrees, and got the toe in the green on all four corners.
The plan is to get the front to around -0.5 degrees and the rear to -1. I should get the look I want after that (flush), provided I don't change my wheels lol. This is going to require rolling at least the rear fenders and some fender work in the front. I probably won't get around to it until the spring though.
With my front wheels at -1.5 degrees camber, i think I would have had to add a 5-8mm spacer to make them flush with the fender.
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I finally for the wheels/tires installed. I went with 225/35/19 and 265/30/19. I am happy with the rears setup. However, the 225/35/19 on 19x8.5 looks stretched; the edge of the tire does not reach to the of the wheels like the rears. Will 235/35/19 fix the stretched look? Finally, will 235/35/19 and 265/30/19 work on my AWD?