Lexus Factory Paint Durability?
#1
Lexus Factory Paint Durability?
I'm having issues!
Help me out here. This isn't the first black car I've owned but its the first black car that I've had major concerns over the finish's durability.
The hood in particular seems to be very susceptible to spotting caused by debris and fluids. For example... the car is always spotless and garage kept. I come back from a quick ride and I have a spot on my hood that simply won't come out. Its almost as if it discolored the clear coat. My guess is it was a fluid from another car in traffic or...
...bird poop. That's the latest one. I put the car in my driveway while I cleaned my garage and a single spot of nature hit the car and I didn't notice it until the next day. By the time I went to clean it off, it also had discolored the clear coat. And noticeably too. The spot is nearly an inch in diameter. And I swear on anything you throw in front of me it wasn't on the car more than 36 hrs, and most of that time in the garage.
So I have 3 questions:
TIA
Help me out here. This isn't the first black car I've owned but its the first black car that I've had major concerns over the finish's durability.
The hood in particular seems to be very susceptible to spotting caused by debris and fluids. For example... the car is always spotless and garage kept. I come back from a quick ride and I have a spot on my hood that simply won't come out. Its almost as if it discolored the clear coat. My guess is it was a fluid from another car in traffic or...
...bird poop. That's the latest one. I put the car in my driveway while I cleaned my garage and a single spot of nature hit the car and I didn't notice it until the next day. By the time I went to clean it off, it also had discolored the clear coat. And noticeably too. The spot is nearly an inch in diameter. And I swear on anything you throw in front of me it wasn't on the car more than 36 hrs, and most of that time in the garage.
So I have 3 questions:
- Is this normal?
- Any tricks on removing the 2 spots?
- Why doesn't this happen to people who don't care about their cars? :-)
TIA
#5
I can honestly say this now...Lexus paint is very cheap! I swear they must spray one coat of paint and clearcoat.
My IS is 3 mos. old and has couple of rock chips on the hood already. Unlike my E63 AMG (1 1/2yrs old), drove it daily for over a year...no rock chips at all.
My IS is 3 mos. old and has couple of rock chips on the hood already. Unlike my E63 AMG (1 1/2yrs old), drove it daily for over a year...no rock chips at all.
#6
You have the EPA to thank for the fragile properties of paint on newer cars. In order to lower VOCs, they require waterborne paint, which goes on thinner, cures differently, and is not nearly as durable as the non-environmentally friendly stuff. Manufacturers and body shops are required to use the new paint, and as you've noticed, it doesn't stand up to the real world very well.
If you're getting staining on the clear due to bird bombs, try claying the area. If that doesn't work, a good machine polish will probably remove it.
Unfortunately, 36 hours is more than enough time for bird crap to etch and stain the paint. Sealants and waxes might help, but you have to accept that driving the car will result in imperfections. The only way to keep a black car perfect is to keep it parked and covered.
If you're getting staining on the clear due to bird bombs, try claying the area. If that doesn't work, a good machine polish will probably remove it.
Unfortunately, 36 hours is more than enough time for bird crap to etch and stain the paint. Sealants and waxes might help, but you have to accept that driving the car will result in imperfections. The only way to keep a black car perfect is to keep it parked and covered.
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#8
Thanks guys. I contemplated a clear bra but I never had a need for one on any of my other vehicles after leaving Colorado... or at least i thought!
I'll try and polish it out and hit the car with another coat of wax.
I noticed the rock chip sensitivity too... Mental note for the next car I guess. Too bad. I'm just glad I'm not the only who's noticed the "weak" paint.
I'll try and polish it out and hit the car with another coat of wax.
I noticed the rock chip sensitivity too... Mental note for the next car I guess. Too bad. I'm just glad I'm not the only who's noticed the "weak" paint.
#9
vdub, i'm noticing the same thing on my new black IS daily driver. I think about repainting it almost on a weekly basis to a more manageable color. Recently I've thought about applying vinyl wrap in a different color to the entire vehicle. I've also thought about putting on paint protection film over the entire vehicle!!
I don't know who said it first, but owning a black car is a part time job.
I don't know who said it first, but owning a black car is a part time job.
#10
You have the EPA to thank for the fragile properties of paint on newer cars. In order to lower VOCs, they require waterborne paint, which goes on thinner, cures differently, and is not nearly as durable as the non-environmentally friendly stuff. Manufacturers and body shops are required to use the new paint, and as you've noticed, it doesn't stand up to the real world very well.
If you're getting staining on the clear due to bird bombs, try claying the area. If that doesn't work, a good machine polish will probably remove it.
Unfortunately, 36 hours is more than enough time for bird crap to etch and stain the paint. Sealants and waxes might help, but you have to accept that driving the car will result in imperfections. The only way to keep a black car perfect is to keep it parked and covered.
If you're getting staining on the clear due to bird bombs, try claying the area. If that doesn't work, a good machine polish will probably remove it.
Unfortunately, 36 hours is more than enough time for bird crap to etch and stain the paint. Sealants and waxes might help, but you have to accept that driving the car will result in imperfections. The only way to keep a black car perfect is to keep it parked and covered.
#12
i've noticed this problem on my Black IS too! The first time it happened, there were at least 4 bird poop stains on my hood, I had Longo lexus's detailer remove it since I bought a package with the car that "should" have prevented this. The second time.... it was another bird poop... it was only on my hood for less that 4 hours.... I tried to wash it off by soaking the poop with quick detailer for like 10 minutes, not only did I get another stain on my hood... I also scratched it. This has happened to me so many times, i've tried to clay it a few times.... but it doesn't seem to work.
#13
I did... but this takes it to a new level! My black GTI has held up great... and that's my daily driver! The IS just sits in the garage... unless its outside getting pooped on
Hahaha... I'm afraid to look at mine this morning, but i think my micro fiber towel scratched my hood too.
Does anyone know or think this problem is just as pronounced with the Starfire Pearl color? That was going to be my next color IS.
Hahaha... I'm afraid to look at mine this morning, but i think my micro fiber towel scratched my hood too.
Does anyone know or think this problem is just as pronounced with the Starfire Pearl color? That was going to be my next color IS.
#15
Thanks guys. I contemplated a clear bra but I never had a need for one on any of my other vehicles after leaving Colorado... or at least i thought!
I'll try and polish it out and hit the car with another coat of wax.
I noticed the rock chip sensitivity too... Mental note for the next car I guess. Too bad. I'm just glad I'm not the only who's noticed the "weak" paint.
I'll try and polish it out and hit the car with another coat of wax.
I noticed the rock chip sensitivity too... Mental note for the next car I guess. Too bad. I'm just glad I'm not the only who's noticed the "weak" paint.