Think Lexus made the IS350 so "un-mod friendly" on purpose?
02-24-10, 07:26 PM
#3
I agree. But remember that Lexus wasnt always a younger crowd and still really isnt except for the IS's, so they built their cars for people that werent really into modding (ex. both of my grandmothers). Thats how I kinda see it, Im sure the 3rd gen will probably be alot easier to mod. Atleast I hope... lol
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02-24-10, 08:51 PM
#8
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1st generation was very popular w the modders, so Lex knew it would be popular with modders. Lex/toyota is known for their reliablity. Hence it aint helpin with their image wtih mad broken down IS's on the side of the highway cause people keep blowin their engines.
IS-F was started as a lead engineers side project, so when the original lexus IS was planned they had no intentions of producing a high performance model
IS-F was started as a lead engineers side project, so when the original lexus IS was planned they had no intentions of producing a high performance model
02-24-10, 09:33 PM
#9
well put. lexus has always geared towards the middle to upper class, yet still focusing on toyota's build quality and reputation. up until recently with the inception of the IS, for the most part many of the other models in the lexus lineup are driven by more experienced and mature drivers.
02-24-10, 10:20 PM
#11
No. I think you're putting too much thought into it. You assume that Lexus had the "tuner" crowd in mind when they created the 2nd gen IS platform, and thus deliberately made it a "mod-unfriendly" platform.
I think quite the opposite is true - Lexus engineers honestly couldn't give 2 rats' asses about what the aftermarket world has to offer to its new platform, and they also knew that 99% of people who buy Lexus don't fall into the tuner category. Those people (the majority of people who buy Lexus products) don't care about modding their car. For every 1 guy on this board just WISHING he could add FI to his ISx50, there are 250 Lexus owners who couldn't tell a turbine housing from a hole in the wall.
"But what about the first gen IS?" you ask... well, if it ain't broke, don't fix it as they say. The I6 in those cars was a proven design and just happened to find its way into the IS300, and I don't think that's an accident, but again... I don't think it's a nod from Toyota to the tuner kids.
I think quite the opposite is true - Lexus engineers honestly couldn't give 2 rats' asses about what the aftermarket world has to offer to its new platform, and they also knew that 99% of people who buy Lexus don't fall into the tuner category. Those people (the majority of people who buy Lexus products) don't care about modding their car. For every 1 guy on this board just WISHING he could add FI to his ISx50, there are 250 Lexus owners who couldn't tell a turbine housing from a hole in the wall.
"But what about the first gen IS?" you ask... well, if it ain't broke, don't fix it as they say. The I6 in those cars was a proven design and just happened to find its way into the IS300, and I don't think that's an accident, but again... I don't think it's a nod from Toyota to the tuner kids.
02-25-10, 12:25 AM
#13
No. I think you're putting too much thought into it. You assume that Lexus had the "tuner" crowd in mind when they created the 2nd gen IS platform, and thus deliberately made it a "mod-unfriendly" platform.
I think quite the opposite is true - Lexus engineers honestly couldn't give 2 rats' asses about what the aftermarket world has to offer to its new platform, and they also knew that 99% of people who buy Lexus don't fall into the tuner category. Those people (the majority of people who buy Lexus products) don't care about modding their car. For every 1 guy on this board just WISHING he could add FI to his ISx50, there are 250 Lexus owners who couldn't tell a turbine housing from a hole in the wall.
"But what about the first gen IS?" you ask... well, if it ain't broke, don't fix it as they say. The I6 in those cars was a proven design and just happened to find its way into the IS300, and I don't think that's an accident, but again... I don't think it's a nod from Toyota to the tuner kids.
I think quite the opposite is true - Lexus engineers honestly couldn't give 2 rats' asses about what the aftermarket world has to offer to its new platform, and they also knew that 99% of people who buy Lexus don't fall into the tuner category. Those people (the majority of people who buy Lexus products) don't care about modding their car. For every 1 guy on this board just WISHING he could add FI to his ISx50, there are 250 Lexus owners who couldn't tell a turbine housing from a hole in the wall.
"But what about the first gen IS?" you ask... well, if it ain't broke, don't fix it as they say. The I6 in those cars was a proven design and just happened to find its way into the IS300, and I don't think that's an accident, but again... I don't think it's a nod from Toyota to the tuner kids.
02-25-10, 12:28 AM
#14
if you want a mod-friendly car, the 2is is certainly not it. it's part of the conformance of the line-up to the lexus brand and image (despite the fact that the LFA and to a lesser extent the is-f have changed that, but that's a discussion for another day). it's a bit civil and a bit sporty, but nothing too far past that. i'd hate to say this, but aside from the LFA and to a lesser extent the is-f, the lexus line-up is, well, conservative.
even those who are trying to re-define the image can't escape the fact that it's a lexus, and it will never be confused for a race car or tuner ride - even with the f-sport catalog thrown at it. farthest you can get away from it is to slap some racing decals all over your 2is and pretend that it's a quasi tuner ride/street racer, and even then that's just downright embarassing.
on the other hand, enjoy it for what it is. it's a bit civil and a bit sporty, and it's a lexus.
even those who are trying to re-define the image can't escape the fact that it's a lexus, and it will never be confused for a race car or tuner ride - even with the f-sport catalog thrown at it. farthest you can get away from it is to slap some racing decals all over your 2is and pretend that it's a quasi tuner ride/street racer, and even then that's just downright embarassing.
on the other hand, enjoy it for what it is. it's a bit civil and a bit sporty, and it's a lexus.
02-25-10, 01:05 AM
#15
if you want a mod-friendly car, the 2is is certainly not it. it's part of the conformance of the line-up to the lexus brand and image (despite the fact that the LFA and to a lesser extent the is-f have changed that, but that's a discussion for another day). it's a bit civil and a bit sporty, but nothing too far past that. i'd hate to say this, but aside from the LFA and to a lesser extent the is-f, the lexus line-up is, well, conservative.
even those who are trying to re-define the image can't escape the fact that it's a lexus, and it will never be confused for a race car or tuner ride - even with the f-sport catalog thrown at it. farthest you can get away from it is to slap some racing decals all over your 2is and pretend that it's a quasi tuner ride/street racer, and even then that's just downright embarassing.
on the other hand, enjoy it for what it is. it's a bit civil and a bit sporty, and it's a lexus.
even those who are trying to re-define the image can't escape the fact that it's a lexus, and it will never be confused for a race car or tuner ride - even with the f-sport catalog thrown at it. farthest you can get away from it is to slap some racing decals all over your 2is and pretend that it's a quasi tuner ride/street racer, and even then that's just downright embarassing.
on the other hand, enjoy it for what it is. it's a bit civil and a bit sporty, and it's a lexus.
but it was ****ing fast for what it was and no one can deny that... I used to street race (before I lost my license to a completely unrelated incident). when I brought it out people were so blown away that a lexus could do what mine did. no one believed me that it wasnt on nitrous... so being accused of it I put it on nitrous and blew people away all over again. regardless of whether or not the car is "mod friendly" its pretty fast for being a luxury sports car.... funny story when I was test driving my car I hadn't made it a block before I got pulled over... I turned around and signed the papers right there.