Found a Product that Cures Brake Dust Armor All Wheel Protectant (Pics)
06-27-10, 05:23 PM
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06-27-10, 09:40 PM
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First, the vast majority are still in warranty.
Second, even if it's not, they sell the low-dust pads for like $65 a set and front pads are crazy easy to do on this car. And if you don't drive insanely those'll last for at least several years. And solve the problem entirely rather than having to buy stuff to spray on the wheels monthly and then still manually clean them regularly anyway.
Plus no worries if the spray you're using is ok for whatever particular wheels you put on either.
Second, even if it's not, they sell the low-dust pads for like $65 a set and front pads are crazy easy to do on this car. And if you don't drive insanely those'll last for at least several years. And solve the problem entirely rather than having to buy stuff to spray on the wheels monthly and then still manually clean them regularly anyway.
Plus no worries if the spray you're using is ok for whatever particular wheels you put on either.
06-27-10, 10:35 PM
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Just a heads up for this product. People with chrome or polished rims may or may not experience a clouding effect. For powdercoated, brushed, normal alloys, etc, it should be no problem at all.
Great product. I never have to use P21S Wheel Gel on my rims anymore. No more wasting money on rim cleaner
Great product. I never have to use P21S Wheel Gel on my rims anymore. No more wasting money on rim cleaner
06-28-10, 12:26 AM
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I'd be hesitant putting anything on my rims, but glad it's working so far for you all.
I had the TSB done and there is virtually no brakedust after a week of driving. Turns out to be the cleanest rims on any car I've owned.
I had the TSB done and there is virtually no brakedust after a week of driving. Turns out to be the cleanest rims on any car I've owned.
06-28-10, 08:15 AM
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First, the vast majority are still in warranty.
Second, even if it's not, they sell the low-dust pads for like $65 a set and front pads are crazy easy to do on this car. And if you don't drive insanely those'll last for at least several years. And solve the problem entirely rather than having to buy stuff to spray on the wheels monthly and then still manually clean them regularly anyway.
Plus no worries if the spray you're using is ok for whatever particular wheels you put on either.
Second, even if it's not, they sell the low-dust pads for like $65 a set and front pads are crazy easy to do on this car. And if you don't drive insanely those'll last for at least several years. And solve the problem entirely rather than having to buy stuff to spray on the wheels monthly and then still manually clean them regularly anyway.
Plus no worries if the spray you're using is ok for whatever particular wheels you put on either.
I purchased my car used, and whomever had the vehicle before me just put new pads and rotors on it before they sold it. So, there is still ~90% of the pad left and I'm not going to go spend the extra money to buy low-dust pads until these are worn. Therefore, this interim solution that the OP pointed out is a realistic and justifiable purchase for some of us "outsiders"; wherein our warranties are expired.
06-28-10, 10:20 AM
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Basic math.
Warranty is 4 years/50k miles.
The average driver puts 13,476 miles per year on a car per the US DOT.
So based on time on average the only 2ISes out of warranty are 2006 models (and even then it's a couple months before the last of them will pass their 4 year in-service date). 100% of 2007, 2008, 2009, and 2010 models are in warranty based on time.
Based on mileage the overwhelming majority are still in warranty as well. 3.71 years at an average of 13,476 miles a year to hit 50,000. So based on that STILL virtually all 2007, 2008, 2009, and 2010 models are under warranty.
Obviously there's the occasional 07 owner who drives well above average, but vast majority is a pretty easy and safe bet for still being in warranty.
not to mention, the TSIB has been out for a couple of years now. So the 06 and high-miles 07 guys had plenty of time to get it done themselves under warranty.
This stuff is $9 a can and you get 2 applications out of a can.
Supposedly it lasts 4 weeks.
So you'll use 6 cans a year. That's $54 per year. Probably $108-$162 over the 2-3 year life most will get out of a set of pads. If you get more than 2-3 years out of pads (and you really should) then costs are even higher. Plus the time and effort every month to reapply the stuff.
Versus spending $65 and eliminating the problem entirely with the TSIB pads even if you're out of warranty.
So again, basic math. The TSIB pads are a much better solution to the dust problem. (and for most owners, free).
Warranty is 4 years/50k miles.
The average driver puts 13,476 miles per year on a car per the US DOT.
So based on time on average the only 2ISes out of warranty are 2006 models (and even then it's a couple months before the last of them will pass their 4 year in-service date). 100% of 2007, 2008, 2009, and 2010 models are in warranty based on time.
Based on mileage the overwhelming majority are still in warranty as well. 3.71 years at an average of 13,476 miles a year to hit 50,000. So based on that STILL virtually all 2007, 2008, 2009, and 2010 models are under warranty.
Obviously there's the occasional 07 owner who drives well above average, but vast majority is a pretty easy and safe bet for still being in warranty.
not to mention, the TSIB has been out for a couple of years now. So the 06 and high-miles 07 guys had plenty of time to get it done themselves under warranty.
I purchased my car used, and whomever had the vehicle before me just put new pads and rotors on it before they sold it. So, there is still ~90% of the pad left and I'm not going to go spend the extra money to buy low-dust pads until these are worn. Therefore, this interim solution that the OP pointed out is a realistic and justifiable purchase for some of us "outsiders"; wherein our warranties are expired.
This stuff is $9 a can and you get 2 applications out of a can.
Supposedly it lasts 4 weeks.
So you'll use 6 cans a year. That's $54 per year. Probably $108-$162 over the 2-3 year life most will get out of a set of pads. If you get more than 2-3 years out of pads (and you really should) then costs are even higher. Plus the time and effort every month to reapply the stuff.
Versus spending $65 and eliminating the problem entirely with the TSIB pads even if you're out of warranty.
So again, basic math. The TSIB pads are a much better solution to the dust problem. (and for most owners, free).
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06-28-10, 10:23 AM
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Vast majority? Where did you pull that statistic from? These forums?
I purchased my car used, and whomever had the vehicle before me just put new pads and rotors on it before they sold it. So, there is still ~90% of the pad left and I'm not going to go spend the extra money to buy low-dust pads until these are worn. Therefore, this interim solution that the OP pointed out is a realistic and justifiable purchase for some of us "outsiders"; wherein our warranties are expired.
I purchased my car used, and whomever had the vehicle before me just put new pads and rotors on it before they sold it. So, there is still ~90% of the pad left and I'm not going to go spend the extra money to buy low-dust pads until these are worn. Therefore, this interim solution that the OP pointed out is a realistic and justifiable purchase for some of us "outsiders"; wherein our warranties are expired.
Like the op said he used half of a can in one application. Add it up.
06-28-10, 10:54 AM
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I'm not advocating using the spray instead of non-dust brake pads, but for some of us who already or still have the OEM pads on it isn't very practical to rip off the current pads. Either just wash the car a lot or risk using the spray.
06-28-10, 11:19 AM
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AND~ for those with aftermarket wheels, put some car wash *like Gold Class or Deep Crystal* in a spray bottle, 1/4th to 1/3rd soap the rest water. Spray and use a mf towel to clean... for bolts or that space between the barrel and face use this HERE *this link is to trendy todds website, CL vendor*
Don't use those wheel cleaner sparys~ seen too much damaged finishes cuz of so called 'professional' detail shops spraying harsh chemicals rather than just taking the time to do it the right way...