IS250 or bimmer 328i?
02-23-11, 06:48 AM
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I remember when I purchased my IS250 I too was debating between this and a BMW 328xi (AWD was a requirement for me). After much research and test drives I went with the 2is because of the horror stories I've read about BMW maintenance and repair costs. I also think the IS250 looks better.
02-23-11, 06:52 AM
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+1 Yet another reason why I went with Lexus.
02-23-11, 06:53 AM
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the BMWs actually do not lease as well as Lexus. But IMO, the only way i would consider stepping into a BMW is if it were a lease.
i decided against the 328. the insurance was more than the 250...and the lease payment was MUCH more. the 250 was floating around mid 300s/mo (nothing down), and BMW couldnt even come below 500.
i was ready to sign the day i looked. i told BMW that if they couldnt come within 25% of the lexus pmt, then i would get a 250. when they asked what the pmt was for the 250, they literally laughed in my face and said i couldnt even lease a 128 for that price. i walked - completely condenscending. (and the 250 and 328 had the same sticker value too).
i decided against the 328. the insurance was more than the 250...and the lease payment was MUCH more. the 250 was floating around mid 300s/mo (nothing down), and BMW couldnt even come below 500.
i was ready to sign the day i looked. i told BMW that if they couldnt come within 25% of the lexus pmt, then i would get a 250. when they asked what the pmt was for the 250, they literally laughed in my face and said i couldnt even lease a 128 for that price. i walked - completely condenscending. (and the 250 and 328 had the same sticker value too).
02-23-11, 07:07 AM
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02-23-11, 07:36 AM
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Lexus is Toyota's luxury brand, as is Infiniti = Nissan, and Acura = Honda, so naturally parts are going to be manufactured by the main company. Just because its manufactured by Toyota doesn't necessarily mean you're getting the exact same part that's in a Corolla.
02-23-11, 07:51 AM
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Lamborghini = VW, and yes, you fill find Jetta buttons on the Gallardo dash.
guess it has come to a point in the automotive world that you should accept these things and not use the whole "parent company" argument to discount a car. they know what they are doing, and parts bin stuff found in a car is generally offset by bigger development costs for things that actually matter.
guess it has come to a point in the automotive world that you should accept these things and not use the whole "parent company" argument to discount a car. they know what they are doing, and parts bin stuff found in a car is generally offset by bigger development costs for things that actually matter.
02-23-11, 09:54 AM
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Here is my logic for not getting a 328i
IS250 is way cheaper (buying new anyways, buying used they are probaably similiar)
IS250 & 328i are not that far off speedwise
the 328i eats more gas (possible as much as a IS350?)
for the price of a 328i you can get a much faster IS350
and then you have your regular reliability issues with bmw vs a toyota
your only other option for bmw is getting a 335i which is the most expensive out of the 4 i have mentioned but if you have the money go for it
IS250 is way cheaper (buying new anyways, buying used they are probaably similiar)
IS250 & 328i are not that far off speedwise
the 328i eats more gas (possible as much as a IS350?)
for the price of a 328i you can get a much faster IS350
and then you have your regular reliability issues with bmw vs a toyota
your only other option for bmw is getting a 335i which is the most expensive out of the 4 i have mentioned but if you have the money go for it
02-23-11, 02:32 PM
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I agree with many people here - from what I heard - lexus has better quality. Plus bimmers are too common - they are everywhere. And I agree - you get much more option-wise with Lexus for the price as compared to BMW where they charge you for every little option
02-23-11, 07:57 PM
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Here is my logic for not getting a 328i
IS250 is way cheaper (buying new anyways, buying used they are probaably similiar)
IS250 & 328i are not that far off speedwise
the 328i eats more gas (possible as much as a IS350?)
for the price of a 328i you can get a much faster IS350
and then you have your regular reliability issues with bmw vs a toyota
your only other option for bmw is getting a 335i which is the most expensive out of the 4 i have mentioned but if you have the money go for it
IS250 is way cheaper (buying new anyways, buying used they are probaably similiar)
IS250 & 328i are not that far off speedwise
the 328i eats more gas (possible as much as a IS350?)
for the price of a 328i you can get a much faster IS350
and then you have your regular reliability issues with bmw vs a toyota
your only other option for bmw is getting a 335i which is the most expensive out of the 4 i have mentioned but if you have the money go for it
02-23-11, 08:22 PM
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^^^ Are you planning on buying a new 328, if so that comes pretty close to IS350 pricing. I would get a IS350 since it is a higher class than 328. It would meet your requirement in terms of speed, and it will eat a 328 all day at a drag strip.
Handling wise, BMW 3 Series can kill a lot of cars out there including Lexus. They are pretty much known for their handling.
Handling wise, BMW 3 Series can kill a lot of cars out there including Lexus. They are pretty much known for their handling.
02-24-11, 06:00 AM
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If you want a coupe and you're going by looks, then a 328i coupe definitely looks better IMO.
02-24-11, 07:20 AM
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another advantage for 328i over IS250 is 328i will carry the last of BMW's famed NA inline 6 cylinder engine. the new 3 series will be featuring a turbo 4 and a turbo 6 according to reports. that inline 6 motor is legendary and it is probably bullet proof by now in terms of reliability.
02-24-11, 07:29 AM
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BMW will nickels and dimes you for the rest of the owner ship if it already out of warranty, IS250 is dead slow.....
If it isn't a 350, I'll look for a V6 Camry, V6 Accord, or may be an RSX-S (lots of mod available).
If it isn't a 350, I'll look for a V6 Camry, V6 Accord, or may be an RSX-S (lots of mod available).
02-24-11, 08:40 AM
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you serious? i'm sorry, but i'll be more than happy to sacrifice 2 seconds off 0-60 to drive a RWD Japan made premium brand car in IS250 rather than those two. as for the Accord V6 unless you get the 6 speed manual coupe the other variants all use the iVTEC V6 with VCM (cylinder shutdown feature), go to Accord board, they're complaining it's almost as slow as the I4 for only marginal mpg gain.
02-24-11, 08:51 AM
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you serious? i'm sorry, but i'll be more than happy to sacrifice 2 seconds off 0-60 to drive a RWD Japan made premium brand car in IS250 rather than those two. as for the Accord V6 unless you get the 6 speed manual coupe the other variants all use the iVTEC V6 with VCM (cylinder shutdown feature), go to Accord board, they're complaining it's almost as slow as the I4 for only marginal mpg gain.
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