My car is in having the recalls fixed on my 07 IS350 and I was loaned a 250
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The mileage difference between the 250 and 350 is quite small (10%) compared to the power (50%) so that's a pretty silly point to bring up.
Further, in the entirely history of gasoline, premium has only averaged $4.30 or more for 6 weeks. Ever. Week of June 16, 2008 through week of Jul 21, 2008. And the 250 uses premium too (and as I said, very nearly the same amount of it).
That said, for folks who don't care about how quick the car is, the 250's an excellent luxury ride that offers great value compared to say a BMW. (the brakes mentioned by the OP are even less relevant than your mention of mileage, since "bigger" brakes don't stop you any shorter).
Mainly I just agreed with the OP on the aesthetic points of the newer model refresh changes versus the older looks... which to my mind bodes poorly for the eventual 3IS if they continue the styling directions they have the last few years... Obviously some folks like this direction though as, AFAIK, the car continues to sell well.
Further, in the entirely history of gasoline, premium has only averaged $4.30 or more for 6 weeks. Ever. Week of June 16, 2008 through week of Jul 21, 2008. And the 250 uses premium too (and as I said, very nearly the same amount of it).
That said, for folks who don't care about how quick the car is, the 250's an excellent luxury ride that offers great value compared to say a BMW. (the brakes mentioned by the OP are even less relevant than your mention of mileage, since "bigger" brakes don't stop you any shorter).
Mainly I just agreed with the OP on the aesthetic points of the newer model refresh changes versus the older looks... which to my mind bodes poorly for the eventual 3IS if they continue the styling directions they have the last few years... Obviously some folks like this direction though as, AFAIK, the car continues to sell well.
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i'm new here, but i've noticed the 350 owners here like to trash 250s every chance they get on here. i just don't get it, they're two different cars, so you seriously don't know how under power 250 is going in? give me a break. at first i was regretting getting my '11 250, i even called up my sales rep a few days after to see if i can switch up to a 350, but he convinced me it wouldn't be wise decision to make. to be honest, i'm kind of used to the 250 power now, it's only slow when you slow down on freeways and then try to pick up speed fast, but other than that, it's perfectly fine. also, (flame suit on), i think 250 carry some uniqueness since it uses the 2.5 v6 that no other Toyota uses, unlike the 350s basically share the same motor with the Camry V6, Avalons.
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You mean I could have gotten the same power for a lot less money?? This I was unaware of. Huh. You learn something new every day.
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I think the OP has his own opinions and personally I think if the OP received a comparably equipped is250, then the most likely main issue would be just power and asthetics..I like the entire IS line and I feel like each one has its pros/cons..
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Yes, and no Toyota (in the US) uses the same motor as in the 250 or 350, unless you're using some insanely broad definition of "engine" to mean anything in the same general family... in which case, say, the Mk 2 and Mk3 Supra had the "same engine" in that their in the M family... and the Rav4 and Land Cruiser also have the "same engine" in that they're in the GR family...
(and FWD vs. RWD can matter to the engine too BTW, longitudinal vs. transverse mounting for example... in your Audi/VW example you might be unaware that the A4 is a FWD platform vehicle that offers an optional AWD system...though at least they finally in the current-gen managed to rear-bias their AWD system which is a nice improvement over previous generations... but anyway it's significantly different from a car that is on a RWD platform but offers an optional AWD system...the IS250/350 for example)
Oh, and even then you're wrong.
The Mk6 GTI uses the non-valvelift variant of the 2.0 R4 16v TSI/TFSI EA888 engine... while the B8-gen A4 uses the valvelift variant of the engine (which is used only in Audis).
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All i got from the OP was blah blah blah MY 350 is better than any 250 blah blah blah. Haven't heard these statements on the forums before.....In the end, only very car oriented individuals see any difference between an '06 is350 and even a '11 is250. Enjoy your super awesome '07 IS350 with NAV.
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Yeah the 2GR-FSE in the IS/GS/GSh has a fair number of differences than you'd think compared to the 2GR-FE in the RX/RXh/ES/Camry/Avalon/RAV4/Sienna. The addition of the D4S system to the 2GR makes the engines quite a bit different. though they are still quite similar, the difference is a lot more than just 'tuning'.
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