Toyota/Lexus FTS coming to see my car!!
03-15-11, 05:16 PM
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Toyota/Lexus FTS coming to see my car!!
As some of you might know, I have had crazy problems occur with my Lexus IS350 after the recent Valve Recall. Initially, when I got the car back from the dealership for the valve recall, it would shift very roughly and the acceleration was equal to that of a V6 Camry (not hating on Camry's). The RPM's would have a mind of their own, and at times, the RPM needle would stay at 3k RPM's without my foot on the pedal...then about 3 seconds later, would drop to about 500RPM's and then finally level off at around 1k RPM's. Somehow the car felt like it was decelerating quickly when I would take my foot off the accelerator...and at other times, would be like a rodeo bull just barely touching the pedal. So, I took it in, and the techs supposedly found a vacuum line loose or unplugged from my FSPORT intake...they stated it was never plugged in after the recall. Found out later on, there was never anything with the vacuum line, they simply reset the ECU over night. The car drove fine for about a day after they fixed it, acceleration was still kinda questionable, but I didn't want to go hard on it just yet. Next day, same issues....only this time, the RPM's would surge drastically between shifts, and coming off the highway, it took a lot more brake pedal pressure to stop the car, but just before it stops, the engine would almost feel like it goes into neutral and then the brakes come back to normal. I almost rear-ended a car because of this. So, I took it back the dealer and the Master Tech came with me this time, and saw what I was talking about. He said, we need to get an FTS here ASAP, because at this point, the engine is not shooting back any fault codes, but the problem is apparent. So, the service manager setup a date for the FTS to come and inspect my car. I also found out that my headlights oxidizing, wheel paint peeling, dashboard seem's not aligned above the vents after rattle TSB, weather stripping around the hood/headlights warping the wrong way, and passenger seat squeaking over bumps will ALL be addressed. So, now we wait....I will keep you guys posted. In the meantime, anyone thinking about doing the valve recall....its complete and utter BS!!! I wish I had never done this....car really drives like crap now!
03-15-11, 05:26 PM
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Sounds like a complete mess, are you this stuff isn't due to a crappy service department/ tech?
Hope it works out for the best, see if you can talk them into a LFA replacement for your inconvenience....lol
Hope it works out for the best, see if you can talk them into a LFA replacement for your inconvenience....lol
03-15-11, 05:37 PM
#6
"Sorry for the inconvenience sir, we will get this squared away! In the meantime, here is our loaner LFA....please be sure to fill her up before returning it...thanks"
Service dept. has been good before, I think its the combination or stiffer valve springs, fsport intake, and the ecu reset that is making this car act a fool..
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03-15-11, 05:59 PM
#8
I'm confident they'll either figure it out and make everything right or get you a new car.
03-16-11, 01:42 PM
#9
Thanks for sharing your experience, and I'm sorry you're having those issues, but blaming the valve spring recall is ridiculous and the epitome of jumping to conclusions. As a previous poster said, 99.9% of IS350 owners that got the recall done have NOT had the above issues you're talking about, which is exactly why they're bringing out Toyota to look at your car. My car had the valve spring recall done just a few months ago and it drives perfectly.
I'm confident they'll either figure it out and make everything right or get you a new car.
I'm confident they'll either figure it out and make everything right or get you a new car.
03-16-11, 02:35 PM
#10
actually, these problems started AFTER you got the car back from the dealership. and you're right, it could be a myriad of other issues that may or may not be related to the valve spring recall (i wouldn't rule out owner negligence either). now, whether it was a result of the recall work performed or something else is the issue that the FTS will look into.
however, i wouldn't go so far as to discourage others from NOT getting the valve spring recall service performed just because you THINK that the valve spring recall caused your 2is to malfunction (which may or may not be the case). if anything, your situation has been nothing more than an isolated incident, as there hasn't been a widespread outbreak of engine reliability/performance issues that have surfaced as a result of the valve spring recall service.
however, i wouldn't go so far as to discourage others from NOT getting the valve spring recall service performed just because you THINK that the valve spring recall caused your 2is to malfunction (which may or may not be the case). if anything, your situation has been nothing more than an isolated incident, as there hasn't been a widespread outbreak of engine reliability/performance issues that have surfaced as a result of the valve spring recall service.
03-16-11, 04:20 PM
#11
actually, these problems started AFTER you got the car back from the dealership. and you're right, it could be a myriad of other issues that may or may not be related to the valve spring recall (i wouldn't rule out owner negligence either). now, whether it was a result of the recall work performed or something else is the issue that the FTS will look into.
however, i wouldn't go so far as to discourage others from NOT getting the valve spring recall service performed just because you THINK that the valve spring recall caused your 2is to malfunction (which may or may not be the case). if anything, your situation has been nothing more than an isolated incident, as there hasn't been a widespread outbreak of engine reliability/performance issues that have surfaced as a result of the valve spring recall service.
however, i wouldn't go so far as to discourage others from NOT getting the valve spring recall service performed just because you THINK that the valve spring recall caused your 2is to malfunction (which may or may not be the case). if anything, your situation has been nothing more than an isolated incident, as there hasn't been a widespread outbreak of engine reliability/performance issues that have surfaced as a result of the valve spring recall service.
Your right! I don't think it is Toyota/Lexus engineering at all....I believe it was how the work was performed. What I am trying to point out, is that why take a chance having someone rip apart your engine thats creates a greater risk of something going wrong (poor install, faulty parts, etc...) then that 0.02% risk of Valve Spring failure??? That is what im getting at....and I know that many people have had success with this recall or some simply don't know that there is something wrong with the car until its too late. Hell, I don't care if one decides to do it or not, im just saying, "here is my experience...".
03-16-11, 04:28 PM
#12
Sounds like this isn't going to be a popular opinion, but ....
I've heard a few post-valve spring recall horror stories now (and I did a search to confirm some of those stories weren't in my head).
I'd say even considering most people only post their horror stories that the issues (even if just minor) post valve recall are probably higher than the .1% that was claimed earlier (i.e. 99.9% success). I know the repercussions of not getting the maintenance done, but I don't think it's unreasonable to ask people to think twice about any recall, especially one with a 0.2% failure rate to begin with...
Personally I don't see any problem with doing your own research prior to any vehicle maintenance. I'd say do your research ... consider not only the horror stories, but your risk (and liability) if you don't get it done and make the best decision for you.
Good luck to the OP! Sorry in advance...if this isn't mainstream opinion...just my two cents though.
I've heard a few post-valve spring recall horror stories now (and I did a search to confirm some of those stories weren't in my head).
I'd say even considering most people only post their horror stories that the issues (even if just minor) post valve recall are probably higher than the .1% that was claimed earlier (i.e. 99.9% success). I know the repercussions of not getting the maintenance done, but I don't think it's unreasonable to ask people to think twice about any recall, especially one with a 0.2% failure rate to begin with...
Personally I don't see any problem with doing your own research prior to any vehicle maintenance. I'd say do your research ... consider not only the horror stories, but your risk (and liability) if you don't get it done and make the best decision for you.
Good luck to the OP! Sorry in advance...if this isn't mainstream opinion...just my two cents though.
03-16-11, 04:30 PM
#13
Your right! I don't think it is Toyota/Lexus engineering at all....I believe it was how the work was performed. What I am trying to point out, is that why take a chance having someone rip apart your engine thats creates a greater risk of something going wrong (poor install, faulty parts, etc...) then that 0.02% risk of Valve Spring failure??? That is what im getting at....and I know that many people have had success with this recall or some simply don't know that there is something wrong with the car until its too late. Hell, I don't care if one decides to do it or not, im just saying, "here is my experience...".
Good luck!
