IS - 2nd Gen (2006-2013) Discussion about the 2006+ model IS models

Stiffer steering?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 08-16-11, 08:10 PM
  #1  
belyzel4
Driver School Candidate
Thread Starter
 
belyzel4's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: CA
Posts: 9
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Stiffer steering?

Hey there guys. I have a 2009 IS350 without the Sports Package and I was wondering if it's possible to get a stiffer steering response?

I drove my friends 335is the other day and I loved how stiff his steering wheel was. I have never tracked my car and probably wont anytime soon, but I just love how the 335is steering feels. What can I do to achieve this without sacrificing too much ride comfort?

(Can maybe someone give me a comparison between all these parts for stiffer steering + effect on ride comfort)
F-Sport Rear Sway Bar?
F-Sport Shocks?
F-Sport Suspension?
Normal Sports Package Suspension?
Any General Recommendations to get Stiffer Steering?

Last edited by belyzel4; 08-16-11 at 08:16 PM.
Old 08-16-11, 08:18 PM
  #2  
anthrax144
Lexus Champion
 
anthrax144's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: WA
Posts: 2,058
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Steering damper:
http://is.sewellparts.com/accessorie...2009/2123.html

Rear sway bar:
http://is.sewellparts.com/accessorie...2009/2178.html

Sway bar will drastically improve the handling and damper will tighten up the steering. You could always get coilovers but that's going to make the ride stiffer as well.
Old 08-16-11, 08:29 PM
  #3  
Jeff Lange
Keeping it Real
iTrader: (1)
 
Jeff Lange's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: California
Posts: 5,035
Received 609 Likes on 405 Posts
Default

Later cars with the sport package have a different power steering ECU, not sure if that changes the steering feel much.

Jeff
Old 08-16-11, 08:45 PM
  #4  
belyzel4
Driver School Candidate
Thread Starter
 
belyzel4's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: CA
Posts: 9
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

I've been meaning to get a Rear Sway Bar for some time now, so that is probably my 1st priority modification now. Didn't think about a steering damper though.

How much do you think the Rear Sway Bar will affect passenger ride comfort?
Since F-Sport Springs are progressive, do you think those will still allow me to retain decent ride comfort?
Old 08-16-11, 08:46 PM
  #5  
edgeucated
Pole Position
iTrader: (4)
 
edgeucated's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: socal
Posts: 3,131
Received 6 Likes on 5 Posts
Default

anthrax pretty much nailed it on the head. Steering damper is the best you could do, but our steering will never be like your friends 335is
Old 08-16-11, 08:57 PM
  #6  
anthrax144
Lexus Champion
 
anthrax144's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: WA
Posts: 2,058
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by belyzel4
I've been meaning to get a Rear Sway Bar for some time now, so that is probably my 1st priority modification now. Didn't think about a steering damper though.

How much do you think the Rear Sway Bar will affect passenger ride comfort?
Since F-Sport Springs are progressive, do you think those will still allow me to retain decent ride comfort?
Just the sway bar will have virtually zero effect on ride comfort. F-sport springs will be stiffer but it will definately get you closer to that 335 feel. It's a personal preference. Many people love the ride with the Fsport, others not so much. But if your primary focus is tighter handling, springs will help.
Old 08-16-11, 09:05 PM
  #7  
belyzel4
Driver School Candidate
Thread Starter
 
belyzel4's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: CA
Posts: 9
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Thank you so much for the help anthrax. I'm putting in an order now for my Rear Sway Bar + Steering Damper. I'll probably install the steering damper myself, but hopefully I can get a good deal on the sway bar install.
Old 08-16-11, 09:21 PM
  #8  
anthrax144
Lexus Champion
 
anthrax144's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: WA
Posts: 2,058
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Installing isn't that difficult to do yourself if you're willing. Here's an interesting thread on it:
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/sus...sway-bars.html

I had a problem getting the endlinks off as well and ended up taking it to the dealer - $70 for the install. I thought that was pretty reasonable.
Old 08-16-11, 09:35 PM
  #9  
UCLAJimmy
Pole Position
iTrader: (2)
 
UCLAJimmy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: CA
Posts: 321
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

how do you install the steering damper
Old 08-16-11, 09:40 PM
  #10  
anthrax144
Lexus Champion
 
anthrax144's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: WA
Posts: 2,058
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

https://www.clublexus.com/forums/is-...ng-damper.html

Search is your friend. =)
Old 08-17-11, 12:25 AM
  #11  
Caliguy350
Rookie
iTrader: (5)
 
Caliguy350's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Sacramento, CA
Posts: 52
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by belyzel4
Hey there guys. I have a 2009 IS350 without the Sports Package and I was wondering if it's possible to get a stiffer steering response?

I drove my friends 335is the other day and I loved how stiff his steering wheel was. I have never tracked my car and probably wont anytime soon, but I just love how the 335is steering feels. What can I do to achieve this without sacrificing too much ride comfort?

(Can maybe someone give me a comparison between all these parts for stiffer steering + effect on ride comfort)
F-Sport Rear Sway Bar?
F-Sport Shocks?
F-Sport Suspension?
Normal Sports Package Suspension?
Any General Recommendations to get Stiffer Steering?
Trade your Lexus for a BMW. It will save you time and money!!!
Old 08-17-11, 12:32 AM
  #12  
GSteg
Rookie
iTrader: (15)
 
GSteg's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: CA
Posts: 16,017
Likes: 0
Received 79 Likes on 61 Posts
Default

If you want that heavier steering, then sway bars won't do a damn thing. It'll affect your car's handling, but making the steering heavy is not one of its duties.

I don't know about the 2IS but on the 2GS, we could disconnect our steering ECU and that would make the steering less boosted. However, I experienced some hard spots so I plugged it back in. Your results may vary, but I'm not sure how the 2IS will respond. Note that having a less boosted steering will only net you a heavier feel, but it won't do much for steering feedback.
Old 08-17-11, 12:32 AM
  #13  
Squirrelz
Pole Position

 
Squirrelz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: San Jose, CA
Posts: 239
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Caliguy350
Trade your Lexus for a BMW. It will save you time and money!!!
Haha no, not if said BMW ends up in repair shops half the time. Let's see who saves time and money then?
Old 08-17-11, 12:55 AM
  #14  
Caliguy350
Rookie
iTrader: (5)
 
Caliguy350's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Sacramento, CA
Posts: 52
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Squirrelz
Haha no, not if said BMW ends up in repair shops half the time. Let's see who saves time and money then?
Repair shops LOL!!!!!My 350 has had way more problems than my BMW has had zero problems from day one.

PS I'm telling you now if you want handling and better steering trade car for BMW. Lexus with the electric steering justs flat out SUCKS!!!

Last edited by Caliguy350; 08-17-11 at 12:57 AM. Reason: spelling
Old 08-17-11, 01:19 AM
  #15  
panda327
Lexus Test Driver
iTrader: (3)
 
panda327's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: BC
Posts: 899
Received 4 Likes on 4 Posts
Default

coils and damper


Quick Reply: Stiffer steering?



All times are GMT -7. The time now is 06:10 AM.