YoNadz

the bumper to bumper should transfer though right?? is that 5yr/50000 miles?

kinglexus99

4/50k and yes it will but its probably almost up (time wise)

swiedom

"Dealer Reported 10/22/2008 Lexus of Huntsville 5092 0080054 TECH FOUND TIRE GAUGE IN DOOR CONSOLE, REMOVED GAUGE RATTLE ELIMINATED"

LOL! That is classic

Kurtz

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HIDs and Nav have nothing to do with each other options-wise for any year of the 2IS.

The only options that include HIDs are:

Luxury package (car doesn't have this)

Sport package (car doesn't have this)
(for 2006 models the above two packages were the only way to get HIDs on a 2IS... for 07-10 the third one below was available...for 2011 they became standard on 350s, still optional on 250s)

HIDs (available as a standalone option for cars that otherwise don't have it)- There's no way to know if this car has this or not without checking it in person (can't tell from the available pictures) or if someone with access to dealer info can run the VIN and see how it was factory optioned.

Sango

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I would agree that in this case, there appears that no TSB has been performed. The service history on the Lexus owners site provides brief details of what was done. Since it does not provide full details, there could be TSBs performed but difficult to tell from there.

Take for instance my vehicle, as I take a subset of what the history saids just explain what I am referring to.

From here it is difficult to notice TSBs except for the bottom (assuming one knows the TSB numbers) two such as 9LG and BLA. The middle area (8/9), these entries is had to do with either dash rattle, cluster rattle and excessive brake dust (which I did have done). I brought the car in to have the cluster rattle to be redone as well (8/19).

One can get the full service history detail by asking for it at the dealership. My service advisor was able to provide and provide me hard copies for my reference which has everything.

whitebeast

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check on forum for TSIBs on our 2is. Hoever, there will be little different between is250's TSIBs and IS350 TSIBs.
here is what i have done to my car

1. DR/PSG SEAT BELT ASSMBLY IS,GS - SSC
2. REPLACE REAR BRAKE DUST BOOT BOTH SIDES GS/IS
3. REPLACE POWER STEERING LINK ASSM FOR GS300/350
4. REPLACE FUEL DELIVERY PIPES FOR IS250/350
5. REPL PEDAL PAD, REFLASH, AWFM - IS MODELS ONLY
6. REPL COMP SPRINGS & LASH ADJUSTERS FOR IS 350
7. TIGHTEN FUEL PRESSURE SENSOR GASKET - IS/GS
8. REPLACE MASTER CYL CUP-HIGHLNDR/AVALON/IS/RX (IT MAY BE WHAT YOU'RE WORRY ABOUT)

Hope it help you!!!

You could find out more info about TSIBs on IS350 at Dealer ship. They have to tell you all TSIBs on your car

Like other people said, this is good deal. you should take it before it gone

atomm

That sounds like a fair price. I got mine back in may for $27,000 with 34k miles and x package. If youre interested in extended warranty, get it from Jerry Johnson at Midwest Toyota. 7 year 100k miles for $1,615, just make sure you get it before the original 5yr/50k expires

Kurtz

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Actually your list is mostly recalls not TSIBs...totally different animals.

Recalls are free, regardless of warranty, and usually represent a significant functional or safety issue.

TSIBs are only free under warranty, and are usually only done in response to a specific complaint from a customer... and are usually "annoyance" issues like "brakes produce too much dust" or "AUX jack produces a whine if used while also charging the device in the DC outlet"


If the car is near the end of the 4 yr/50k warranty then TSIBs are the one to worry about as you're almost out of time to get those done free... and while some are pretty cheap on your own (the low dust brake pads for example) some are quite expensive (the rear-view mirror one for example).

Of course you don't NEED to do em... the car still stops just as well with dusty brakes... it's just nice to get em done free if you can.

Some common ones off the top of my head:

Brake dust
Vibrating rear view mirror
Dash rattle
AUX whine
Front seat squeek
Cam rattle on cold startup (this one you have till 6 yr/70k miles at least as it's a powertrain warranty issue)

Note- not all years have all these issues, not all cars even in affected years will have em necessarily

calvin2376

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The gap between 5k and 30k miles concerns me. It's understandable if the owner wanted to have his maintenance performed somewhere other than a Lexus dealer, meaning it wouldn't show up on that report. However, any responsible owner would have recalls performed immediately and at the dealer. However, this owner had NO recalls performed - the only recalls performed appear to be the "pad pedal" one and the valve spring recall. At the top of the dealer service history, did it list open recalls? You're at least due for the fuel pressure sensor one, and I believe one or two others.

In any case, this owner didn't have any of these recalls performed - the dealership performed two of them when it was traded in. Furthermore, this owner had NO TSIB's performed whatsoever. This is extremely puzzling - there are somewhere on the order of 100 TSIBs available for the '06-'08 2IS. Surely that car was/is suffering from at least a few of these issues.

Did you ever find out if it's still under factory warranty? An '08 might be out very soon. You'll want to know because there are multiple TSIBs that may need to be performed that are only covered under the factory warranty. Kurtz laid out most of them above - the big ones are the rattles, specifically the dash one (which is a $1000+ job), since they're not covered by anything else. Cam gear rattle on startup isn't a concern at the moment because it's covered by the powertrain warranty. The rest Kurtz mentioned also won't be covered under anything but the factory warranty so if your car is soon out of warranty, all those will be out of pocket.

The last thing that concerns me is the tow-in. Maybe someone else can explain this and show that it's not uncommon, but I've personally traded in 3 cars and never have I had my car towed in. I would hope this isn't a sign the car wasn't in driveable condition at the time of trade.

Based on all this info, here's what I recommend:

1) Get both Carfax and Autocheck - this is even more important now with the concerning gap between 5 and 30k and the tow-in.

2) Find out if the car is under factory warranty and until when.

3) Inspect the car VERY VERY carefully. Every piece of trim, inside and out. Things like cracked windshield molding on the outside won't be covered under anything but factory warranty, and nuisance items like this are best to get taken care of by the dealership prior to purchase.

4) Drive the car extensively and over uneven roads. Listen for any squeaks or rattles, specifically from the dash/windshield area. The Buyer's Guide thread I linked to above explains what rattles to look for and what the relevant TSIBs are for them.

5) Consider an extended warranty. The Buyer's Guide thread explains this in detail.

I still think this is a good deal, but I'd want to clear up the above first.

Lastly, people are getting confused on here about recalls vs. TSIBs. Read Kurtz's explanation above: recalls are free anytime and are significant safety concerns, while TSIBs are just bulletins issued to dealers to explain how to fix common issues on a particular car - these TSIBs are NOT free anytime, they're usually only covered by a particular warranty. There's a TSIB for the dash rattle issue, for example, and it's covered ONLY under the factory 4 yr/50k mile warranty, while the cam gear TSIB is covered by the 6 yr/70k powertrain warranty.

Recalls themselves are not a concern to you because they'll be performed as soon as you take it to a dealer for free (you need to check the Lexus service history for open recalls and have the selling dealership perform them all immediately, by the way). Recalls are only concerning in the sense that the history of performed (or unperformed) recalls on your car gives an indication of the owner's care for his or her car. In this particular case the owner didn't get any recalls performed, despite the fact that 1) they're major safety concerns, 2) they're free, and 3) he was notified of them. That's concerning.

TSIBs are a major concern because if they're not performed before the relevant warranty expires, they're out of pocket to you and can cost thousands.

Also, the car is not CPO.

subparrnd

Just to let you know. This car has had all of the recalls done on it. The valve springs were replaced on 12/17/2010. It has a POWERTRAIN warranty until 4/28/2014 from Lexus. They give all owners a 6 yr/100K due to the valve spring recall.

While it does concern me that the car had a gap in service from 5K to just under 34K miles. I would get a trusted tech to look at the oil in the car to see if the regular oil changes were done. Also, the car got new brakes at just under 35K miles. There were quite a few brake complaints with this car and owner, but you have to understand that when a person buys an IS350, not everyone understands that they are buying a high performance car with high performance brakes. So they might have just not been used to the noises that it makes.

My advice to you is to ask the dealer to see if you could take the car to get checked out by someone you trust. As you are driving it, slam on the brakes to see if there is anything abnormal about them.

Seems to be a nice deal for 26,500 OTD.

Good luck!

Homer

PS, BTW, the first date of use is 4/28/2008, so given the current miles, you can still purchase an extended warranty for the car from a Lexus dealer. Hope this helps!

my95tsi

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I don't think this is a great deal at all. It's not horrible but it's far from great. I bought my 2008 IS350 back in October wth 8500 miles on it for $29,500. Keep in mind that mine also has the sport package which has everything but park assist, rear sunshade, and dynamic cruise control.

kinglexus99

While I'm sure you are correct Kurtz I have yet to EVER see an IS that had nav but did not have HIDs so I think it's safe to say that if it has nav its more than likely going to have HIDs. Unless for whatever reason the buyer special ordered it with halogens (which would make absolutely no sense).

my95tsi

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Really?? You've never seen it? Sorry but you don't know too much.

My old 2006 IS350 had the premium package with nav but I did not have HID's.

Kurtz

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Yup... in fact for 06s especially it's more likely the car has nav without HIDs than with, since HIDs were not available at all unless you have the Lux or Sport package, while Nav was available regardless of package.

kinglexus99

^ right and the car he was looking at is a 2008... so i'll clarify: I have never seen a 2008 IS with nav and no HIDs.

If someone owns one then I stand corrected but its still an unlikely combo for that year.