2007 staggered tires
#31
Thanks for the info. I think you're comparing to the Bridgestone Potenza RE050, which along with the Michelin PSS are both out of my price range I was looking around $150 per tire so I replaced my fronts with Dunlop Sport Maxx TT. My originals were Bridgestone Turanza ER33 and they lasted 32,500 miles on the front. Rears are still going, hopefully until 60,000 miles.
#32
I should add in this thread that my fronts were worn on both the insides and outsides. I meticulously keep my tire pressures at 35psi, even adjusting for temperature variations, so the wear should not be due to under inflation.
The alignment performed after I replaced the fronts showed 0.20deg and 0.14deg toe-in before, which could explain the outside edge wear. I'm starting to think that the inside edge wear is caused by a dynamic toe-out when braking. Does anyone have any thoughts on this?
The alignment performed after I replaced the fronts showed 0.20deg and 0.14deg toe-in before, which could explain the outside edge wear. I'm starting to think that the inside edge wear is caused by a dynamic toe-out when braking. Does anyone have any thoughts on this?
#35
The IS does not come with a way to adjust Camber in the front. This was stupid imo but done to give good cornering ability to the car. I see dozens of these and install front tires often because of this. I'm a Lexus tech btw.
For the record, you adjust in the following order: Caster, Camber, Toe. Because alignment settings are affected in that order. Hardly anyone touches Caster unless the car has been in a collision. Any camber more than .5 will wear the shoulder of the tire prematurely.
When the tech shows you your alignment print out with everything within specs, just remember those are aggressive specs. But there's nothing he/she can do about the camber. It's a fixed position.
Don't feel too bad as Corvette owners have the same problems from the factory, only Corvettes have a Camber adjustment where the IS doesn't. Most of our customers get tires with a higher tread wear rating to prolong the inevitable. You sacrifice a bit of traction going this route but most IS owners I see have no idea what performance driving is since Daddy bought them the "cute" car on the lot.
Keep some coin handy for those front rotors to be replaced when it comes time for brakes as well.
For the record, you adjust in the following order: Caster, Camber, Toe. Because alignment settings are affected in that order. Hardly anyone touches Caster unless the car has been in a collision. Any camber more than .5 will wear the shoulder of the tire prematurely.
When the tech shows you your alignment print out with everything within specs, just remember those are aggressive specs. But there's nothing he/she can do about the camber. It's a fixed position.
Don't feel too bad as Corvette owners have the same problems from the factory, only Corvettes have a Camber adjustment where the IS doesn't. Most of our customers get tires with a higher tread wear rating to prolong the inevitable. You sacrifice a bit of traction going this route but most IS owners I see have no idea what performance driving is since Daddy bought them the "cute" car on the lot.
Keep some coin handy for those front rotors to be replaced when it comes time for brakes as well.
Last edited by Road Rage; 11-09-11 at 05:53 PM.
#36
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You probably noticed in my pics at the first page of the thread that the tech put my peassures up and I'm fine of the way it performs.
#37
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The IS does not come with a way to adjust Camber in the front. This was stupid imo but done to give good cornering ability to the car. I see dozens of these and install front tires often because of this. I'm a Lexus tech btw.
For the record, you adjust in the following order: Caster, Camber, Toe. Because alignment settings are affected in that order. Hardly anyone touches Caster unless the car has been in a collision. Any camber more than .5 will wear the shoulder of the tire prematurely.
When the tech shows you your alignment print out with everything within specs, just remember those are aggressive specs. But there's nothing he/she can do about the camber. It's a fixed position.
Don't feel too bad as Corvette owners have the same problems from the factory, only Corvettes have a Camber adjustment where the IS doesn't. Most of our customers get tires with a higher tread wear rating to prolong the inevitable. You sacrifice a bit of traction going this route but most IS owners I see have no idea what performance driving is since Daddy bought them the "cute" car on the lot.
Keep some coin handy for those front rotors to be replaced when it comes time for brakes as well.
For the record, you adjust in the following order: Caster, Camber, Toe. Because alignment settings are affected in that order. Hardly anyone touches Caster unless the car has been in a collision. Any camber more than .5 will wear the shoulder of the tire prematurely.
When the tech shows you your alignment print out with everything within specs, just remember those are aggressive specs. But there's nothing he/she can do about the camber. It's a fixed position.
Don't feel too bad as Corvette owners have the same problems from the factory, only Corvettes have a Camber adjustment where the IS doesn't. Most of our customers get tires with a higher tread wear rating to prolong the inevitable. You sacrifice a bit of traction going this route but most IS owners I see have no idea what performance driving is since Daddy bought them the "cute" car on the lot.
Keep some coin handy for those front rotors to be replaced when it comes time for brakes as well.
I think there is a pretty significant toe change under braking, and finding the optimum setting for toe is pretty difficult - in one direction you're good for straight line, but not good under braking, and the other you're good for braking, but bad for straight line. All of my experimentation with toe on my F tends to bear this out.
#38
that's interesting.. i've got it completely opposite. i just recently replaced the oem er33 because the outside of the front tires were worn down pretty bad, while the inside/middle still had decent tread. toe alignment was 0.06 for both sides. (rears were wearing evenly).
just replaced them with pilot sport 3.
just replaced them with pilot sport 3.
#39
I think there is a pretty significant toe change under braking, and finding the optimum setting for toe is pretty difficult - in one direction you're good for straight line, but not good under braking, and the other you're good for braking, but bad for straight line. All of my experimentation with toe on my F tends to bear this out.
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