FK-452 or Evo V12???
#20
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V12s for sure. I had 452s and switched over. I used to rub a dub dub all the time with the 452s and now with the Hankooks, no more rub. They are more comfortable and a better tire overall. The only pro for the Falkens were that they looked better stretched since it rounded off instead of sagging. I'm not going back to the 452s for sure.
#21
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I told you what I think
On another note I think ima buy some better tires next time. This morning on a slight incline, wet ground, and moderate acceleration my V12 lost traction. ***** the traction light comes on all the time. Maybe I'm jus hard to please LOL. Raj let me drive your car with thise PS2 before I buy those expensive tires .
On another note I think ima buy some better tires next time. This morning on a slight incline, wet ground, and moderate acceleration my V12 lost traction. ***** the traction light comes on all the time. Maybe I'm jus hard to please LOL. Raj let me drive your car with thise PS2 before I buy those expensive tires .
#22
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I told you what I think
On another note I think ima buy some better tires next time. This morning on a slight incline, wet ground, and moderate acceleration my V12 lost traction. ***** the traction light comes on all the time. Maybe I'm jus hard to please LOL. Raj let me drive your car with thise PS2 before I buy those expensive tires .
On another note I think ima buy some better tires next time. This morning on a slight incline, wet ground, and moderate acceleration my V12 lost traction. ***** the traction light comes on all the time. Maybe I'm jus hard to please LOL. Raj let me drive your car with thise PS2 before I buy those expensive tires .
You sure there's nothing else wrong there? The V12 has excellent wet traction... it actually stops a couple feet shorter in wet than the PS2 does-
http://media.caranddriver.com/files/...brakingwet.pdf
#23
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that's my planned setup for my newly acquired Five Axis S5:F ...
I think he just wants to drives Raj's car... LOL
You sure there's nothing else wrong there? The V12 has excellent wet traction... it actually stops a couple feet shorter in wet than the PS2 does-
http://media.caranddriver.com/files/...brakingwet.pdf
http://media.caranddriver.com/files/...brakingwet.pdf
Last edited by GilIS250; 12-15-11 at 08:40 AM.
#24
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You sure there's nothing else wrong there? The V12 has excellent wet traction... it actually stops a couple feet shorter in wet than the PS2 does-
http://media.caranddriver.com/files/...brakingwet.pdf
http://media.caranddriver.com/files/...brakingwet.pdf
Accelerating and stopping are a little different. No idea of the stopping excellentlness because I don't drive that close to people to have ever needed to test that. Again maybe I'm hard to please. He loves his tires and I want to see if there better. No need for a debate. We've heard it all before.... "Insert Kurtz ramblin on about tires here"..... Not interested sorry.
#26
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when i was shopping for tires, those two were my choices as well. i asked the rep of the distributor i went to, which one is a better choice. he said they're pretty much the same tires, so my decision came down to where they were made and chose the 452s (Japan) as opposed to V12 (Korea).
i thought the 452s wore out quickly and had to flip soon. bought the V12s after but didn't really use them long enough to get a good observation as i traded my wheels with the tires.
i know it's not one of the options but i think Continental DW is a very good tire to consider too. not too long ago TireRack had a special for 224/35 & 245/35 for like $130/tire. not to mention it is rated 340 AA A.
i thought the 452s wore out quickly and had to flip soon. bought the V12s after but didn't really use them long enough to get a good observation as i traded my wheels with the tires.
i know it's not one of the options but i think Continental DW is a very good tire to consider too. not too long ago TireRack had a special for 224/35 & 245/35 for like $130/tire. not to mention it is rated 340 AA A.
#27
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Unbelievible. I shoulda known.
Accelerating and stopping are a little different. No idea of the stopping excellentlness because I don't drive that close to people to have ever needed to test that. Again maybe I'm hard to please. He loves his tires and I want to see if there better. No need for a debate. We've heard it all before.... "Insert Kurtz ramblin on about tires here"..... Not interested sorry.
Accelerating and stopping are a little different. No idea of the stopping excellentlness because I don't drive that close to people to have ever needed to test that. Again maybe I'm hard to please. He loves his tires and I want to see if there better. No need for a debate. We've heard it all before.... "Insert Kurtz ramblin on about tires here"..... Not interested sorry.
So by all means see how you like the other tires if you want to- just try and insure testing conditions are as similar as possible when comparing (same road, same amount of 'wetness", even down to things like amount of fuel in the vehicle, amount of stuff in the trunk, etc)... ideally you'd need at least a consumer-grade accelerometer to accurately judge traction... though interferrnce from the VSC system, if you're controlling for pedal input (ie always flooring it, or somehow insuring you're always giving it X% of throttle each time), might not be a bad thing to measure.
(or if you only care about feel, not actual performance, just ignore all that )
#29
^ I doubt anyone would waste time to do all that just to see how much traction the v12s have. Logically, I'm just asking those to speak from experience since everyone has something different to say about them based on experience. So far I hear good things I'm only worry about the soft sidewall of the v12, even though I won't be cornering fast but what about when I accidentally hit potholes? Not to mention Hankook does have softer rubber than Falken.