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Old 05-21-12, 06:33 PM
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Default This is like a new IS250

I must say I just moved from Colorado Springs (my old house is at 7000 ft) to San Antonio, Texas (700 ft) and the difference in the performance of my car is night and day!

I am now actually happy with the 250's response/acceleration. Def getting a new exhaust still, but now will stop lamenting that this car is slow--i feel like it gained 30 horses!

Just had to share--I am soooo Happy!
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Originally Posted by funglenn
I must say I just moved from Colorado Springs (my old house is at 7000 ft) to San Antonio, Texas (700 ft) and the difference in the performance of my car is night and day!

I am now actually happy with the 250's response/acceleration. Def getting a new exhaust still, but now will stop lamenting that this car is slow--i feel like it gained 30 horses!

Just had to share--I am soooo Happy!
More than 30... a car at 7000 ft in say 65 degree weather, 29.92 humidity, and a dewpoint of 40 the engine is only producing about 76% of rated horsepower.

Same weather at 700 feet is about dead on at 100%

IS250 is rated at 204 hp.... * 0.76=155.04 engine hp.
Old 05-21-12, 08:13 PM
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Awesome...but why on gods green earth would you move from Colorado Springs to San Antonio...were you forced at gunpoint...
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I'd be curious to see how Kurtz arrived at that number. I'm not doubting him, but his figure doesn't jibe with the estimate of 3% power loss for every 1,000 feet that I've always heard.

If I lived at that altitude, I'd definitely be driving a car with a turbocharged engine. Turbocharging largely compensates for the change in air density.
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Originally Posted by Bichon
I'd be curious to see how Kurtz arrived at that number. I'm not doubting him, but his figure doesn't jibe with the estimate of 3% power loss for every 1,000 feet that I've always heard.

If I lived at that altitude, I'd definitely be driving a car with a turbocharged engine. Turbocharging largely compensates for the change in air density.
http://wahiduddin.net/calc/calc_hp_dp.htm
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Oo man enjoy it now bec in a month or two ur gonna say damn this car is slow...lol...it happens
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I also live in Colorado Springs and the altitude definitely sucks in terms of automobile performance, especially on 'hot' summer days. Of course our hot summer days must feel like the South Pole to a hot summer day in San Antonio. lol. Forced induction is a big advantage up here. My 350 runs even, if not slightly faster, with my friends stock 2009 WRX for reference.
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Originally Posted by MpKSonic
I also live in Colorado Springs and the altitude definitely sucks in terms of automobile performance, especially on 'hot' summer days. Of course our hot summer days must feel like the South Pole to a hot summer day in San Antonio. lol. Forced induction is a big advantage up here. My 350 runs even, if not slightly faster, with my friends stock 2009 WRX for reference.
Yes, my wife's turbo charged volvo never missed a beat!
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Oh quite a change in climate. Congratz on the performance improvement.
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Originally Posted by funglenn
Yes, my wife's turbo charged volvo never missed a beat!
My previous car was a 1.8T Jetta, so I know both ends of the spectrum.
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Originally Posted by Kurtz
More than 30... a car at 7000 ft in say 65 degree weather, 29.92 humidity, and a dewpoint of 40 the engine is only producing about 76% of rated horsepower.

Same weather at 700 feet is about dead on at 100%

IS250 is rated at 204 hp.... * 0.76=155.04 engine hp.
I don't know what you mean by "29.92 humidity", but I assume you mean the atmospheric pressure. 29.92 inHg is the standard pressure at sea level. You lose about 1 inHg for every 1000 ft so at 7000 ft, you will only get about 23 inHg. That's 76% not taking into account the temp or humidity. So yeah, that's a lot less air going into a normally aspirated engine even at full throttle and a lot less power.
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Congrats on the improvement without spending any real $$$. You might feel a little difference with an aftermarket exhaust, but not much. You'll just notice/hear a sound improvement. What exhaust are you looking to purchase?
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Originally Posted by Toymota
I don't know what you mean by "29.92 humidity", but I assume you mean the atmospheric pressure. 29.92 inHg is the standard pressure at sea level. You lose about 1 inHg for every 1000 ft so at 7000 ft, you will only get about 23 inHg. That's 76% not taking into account the temp or humidity. So yeah, that's a lot less air going into a normally aspirated engine even at full throttle and a lot less power.
Ack, yeah, typo, 29.92 pressure... but the 76% does take into account temp and humidity, hence why the calculator asks about the dewpoint and the temp.

http://forecast.weather.gov/MapClick...d2=-104.76&e=0


And FWIW, the pressure right now in Colo Springs is 30.03...
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Originally Posted by Kurtz
http://forecast.weather.gov/MapClick...d2=-104.76&e=0


And FWIW, the pressure right now in Colo Springs is 30.03...
Careful. That barometric pressure is already adjusted to sea level. But I took a look at the calculator you posted, and it asks for Altimeter setting, so using the sea-level adjusted barometric pressure there would be correct.
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lol this whole conversation made me laugh
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