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Is Lexus safe in an severe accident ?
07-04-12, 12:17 PM
#1
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Is Lexus safe in an severe accident ?
So me and my friend got into an argument the other day where he adamantly claimed American car's are the safest car's in the planet since they are built very tough compared to Japanese car's. I obviously had to defend Japanese built quality with my Lexus as I've never heard anyone loose their life while in a Lexus that met with an accident.
However there was just one accident that happened a couple of months back where a 2010 Toyota Land Cruiser toppled at high speed due to a punctured tire and 3 of the occupants passed away. Now I'm sure the Lexus LX 470 is 70 % the same vehicle. So it made me re-think what my friend told , maybe he's got a point , Japanese car's may not be able to withstand a severe crash.
On the other hand I had a severe accident in a VW sister car Skoda. I crashed at 160 without seatbelts, not a proud moment definitely but survived with just few bruises.
That was surely built like a tank .
I would love to hear your personal experiences and what you guy's think , Are Japanese car's not that safe as American or German car's ? I'll put a pole as well with all the major luxurious brands and let's see what the general consensus is.
However there was just one accident that happened a couple of months back where a 2010 Toyota Land Cruiser toppled at high speed due to a punctured tire and 3 of the occupants passed away. Now I'm sure the Lexus LX 470 is 70 % the same vehicle. So it made me re-think what my friend told , maybe he's got a point , Japanese car's may not be able to withstand a severe crash.
On the other hand I had a severe accident in a VW sister car Skoda. I crashed at 160 without seatbelts, not a proud moment definitely but survived with just few bruises.
That was surely built like a tank . I would love to hear your personal experiences and what you guy's think , Are Japanese car's not that safe as American or German car's ? I'll put a pole as well with all the major luxurious brands and let's see what the general consensus is.
Last edited by stanjohn12; 07-04-12 at 12:24 PM.
07-04-12, 12:30 PM
#2
personally i don't think it's something you can compare head to head by just saying "this nation's car" or "this brand" is "in this way" better
it all depends on the circumstances
i've seen accident between a matrix and a 300c and matrix drove away unharmed except for scratches, while the chrysler's bumper fell off and dented............also another time a range rover rear ended a corolla, the range rover had much bigger damages than the little japanese car
another theory i have is that, even tho american cars are "built tough", when in an accident, all the force is transferred through the body and onto the driver/passenger...whereas the "softer" japanese material absorbs a lot of these forces so the force put upon the driver/passenger is significantly reduced....which reminds me I've seen an accident where a mazda3 was squashed head to butt between 2 big transport trucks, the body was literally squished to half it's original length, but the driver walked out with only scratches and bruises
i'm not being a japanese car fanboy and hating on american cars or anything, or saying they are more superior. i'd love to own a cts-v if i have the chance. but what i'm saying is every car (jap, american, german, etc.) all have their pros and cons depending on the specific circumstances
it all depends on the circumstances
i've seen accident between a matrix and a 300c and matrix drove away unharmed except for scratches, while the chrysler's bumper fell off and dented............also another time a range rover rear ended a corolla, the range rover had much bigger damages than the little japanese car
another theory i have is that, even tho american cars are "built tough", when in an accident, all the force is transferred through the body and onto the driver/passenger...whereas the "softer" japanese material absorbs a lot of these forces so the force put upon the driver/passenger is significantly reduced....which reminds me I've seen an accident where a mazda3 was squashed head to butt between 2 big transport trucks, the body was literally squished to half it's original length, but the driver walked out with only scratches and bruises
i'm not being a japanese car fanboy and hating on american cars or anything, or saying they are more superior. i'd love to own a cts-v if i have the chance. but what i'm saying is every car (jap, american, german, etc.) all have their pros and cons depending on the specific circumstances
Last edited by reyoasian; 07-05-12 at 07:15 PM.
07-04-12, 01:20 PM
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That and I forgot to add it. Thought of adding it later through edit but wasn't able to. Would be glad if mods could add even the volvo to the polls. Sorry.
07-04-12, 01:22 PM
#6
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So that's +1 for the Lexus :-)
07-05-12, 01:19 PM
#7
I think for the answer all you need to look for is the cheapest cars to insure, they usually base it on not only the rate of accident in a car, but the cost they bring due to the injuries and deaths.
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07-05-12, 01:54 PM
#8
Lexus Champion
Categorizing by the country of origin of the make of the car just makes no sense at all -- and of course, let's not even get into what constitutes an "American" car anyway. I like andcars7's response above--this "debate" should all be data-driven. Not based on whether you are insanely loyal to American or Japanese cars. If a car is safe, it should, relatively speaking, when compared to similar cars, be cheaper to insure. Of course, even this isn't a true measure, because a BMW may have higher-cost parts for repair than a Cadillac.
07-05-12, 01:57 PM
#9
Lexus Test Driver
Your friend is stuck in the past or believing old myths. The days of a group of cars being dangerous are long gone. Plus, there is absolutely no way to throw all cars from one region into a catagory, as far as safety is concerned. Each car is built to it's own spec, each accident is different, and other variables make for unique outcomes. The best answer to the question is to look at NTSB crash test results and use that as a rough basis.
Overall, I'd say today's cars are all very safe compared to cars built twenty years ago. If one happened to have poor test results, the word would get out via media and social networking and the car would be ostracized and a dud on lots. Safety sells. Society and car makers got the message a long time ago, so these mistakes don't happen anymore.
Overall, I'd say today's cars are all very safe compared to cars built twenty years ago. If one happened to have poor test results, the word would get out via media and social networking and the car would be ostracized and a dud on lots. Safety sells. Society and car makers got the message a long time ago, so these mistakes don't happen anymore.
07-05-12, 02:32 PM
#11
Like others have said, every accident is different. There are so many factors that go into an accident that can change things completely. Getting rear ended is completely different from being hit head on or on the side. Doesn't matter what kind of car you drive - if you get hit the wrong way there's only so much the human body is capable to hold up to. With all the new safety technology they are putting into cars today cars are getting safer and safer, but sometimes all the latest technology can't even stop you from being seriously injured or killed.
07-05-12, 02:57 PM
#12
Your poll answers can be found here
http://www.nhtsa.gov/
http://www.safercar.gov/Safety+Ratings
I'm not sure what your friend was smoking? LOL... comparing a 2005 Toyota Corolla to a 2005 Chevy Cavalier... Toyota looks like Jesus. 5 star vs 1 star
Note that there's not much of a difference between the 2. American Cars have come along way in terms of safety and pretty much caught up to Japanese cars.
http://www.nhtsa.gov/
http://www.safercar.gov/Safety+Ratings
I'm not sure what your friend was smoking? LOL... comparing a 2005 Toyota Corolla to a 2005 Chevy Cavalier... Toyota looks like Jesus. 5 star vs 1 star
Note that there's not much of a difference between the 2. American Cars have come along way in terms of safety and pretty much caught up to Japanese cars.
07-05-12, 06:28 PM
#14
Lexus Test Driver
NHTSA and IIHS safety rating is the closest non biased opinion you can get on the "relative" safety of one car over another under similar set of simulated accidents.
