Lexus vs Bmw
07-16-12, 07:07 PM
#31
lexus ftw
now on an unbiased pov.........bmw's are great drivers' cars but their interior quality and feeling of luxury is just....mediocre ( to put it in a nice way)........not to mention they have crap load of problems modded or not...and also the expensiveness of modding german cars
sure lexus may not handle as great and maybe is250 is a little underpowered (especially now that 328i got more power) but i always take NA over a T engine....(now that both 328 and 335 are T....I wouldn't consider neither).................but the quality you get in a lexus is incomparable.....which to me is important because 99% of time you're sitting IN the car and 95% of time you're LOOKING inside the car.......plus the added bonus of cheaper modifications because japanese cars are so easy to mod especially electronically..........and even if it doesn't handle as good as a bmw, how many of us are taking it to the track on a daily basis anyways? how many of us are going to turn at an intersection at 60 mph on a daily basis, or at all?
plus it's more gas efficient and sooooooooooo much more reliable....
i bought my lexus because of these reasons, most bmw fanboys buy their bmw solely from thinking "i own a bmw! i'm cool! bmw are the bomb! why? because it's german and it's bmw and i'm going to look so boss in a bmw!"
now on an unbiased pov.........bmw's are great drivers' cars but their interior quality and feeling of luxury is just....mediocre ( to put it in a nice way)........not to mention they have crap load of problems modded or not...and also the expensiveness of modding german cars
sure lexus may not handle as great and maybe is250 is a little underpowered (especially now that 328i got more power) but i always take NA over a T engine....(now that both 328 and 335 are T....I wouldn't consider neither).................but the quality you get in a lexus is incomparable.....which to me is important because 99% of time you're sitting IN the car and 95% of time you're LOOKING inside the car.......plus the added bonus of cheaper modifications because japanese cars are so easy to mod especially electronically..........and even if it doesn't handle as good as a bmw, how many of us are taking it to the track on a daily basis anyways? how many of us are going to turn at an intersection at 60 mph on a daily basis, or at all?
plus it's more gas efficient and sooooooooooo much more reliable....
i bought my lexus because of these reasons, most bmw fanboys buy their bmw solely from thinking "i own a bmw! i'm cool! bmw are the bomb! why? because it's german and it's bmw and i'm going to look so boss in a bmw!"
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07-16-12, 07:12 PM
#32
The one thing I don't understand about BMW is how can they not have fixed the HPFP issue on the 335s yet? It's kind of a big deal....nobody wants their fuel pump dying on them while they are out somewhere.
My buddies 2012 model just had the HPFP replaced under warranty, and he hasn't even had it a year
My buddies 2012 model just had the HPFP replaced under warranty, and he hasn't even had it a year
dealers claim is only 5% of cars have it "from data"...but i have a friend who's a sales in bmw dealer and he says it is MUCH higher than that
07-16-12, 08:12 PM
#33
I think you have this part backwards, BMW mods are much cheaper than our cars. Their aftermarket is huge, while ours is tiny; therefore our mods have a very high "lexus" tax. In addition, our electronics are way worst...just look at our ecu, no tune available.
07-17-12, 10:46 AM
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i don't mean electronically as in ecu modification, but rather electronic dependability as all my friends driver older german cars all have a lot of electrical issues, new ones are ok
07-17-12, 12:00 PM
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Back in the late 90s my parents 5 series got rear ended by a kid not watching the road....
car was in the shop for a month...
They gave my parents an es350 while the car was getting repaired.... they could not believe how much nicer the lexus drove / rode / experience was.
2 months later my parents had a brand new es350....
now in the family, 4 lexuses , (GS430, Gs400, IS350, ISF) and one (545i)
I tried to get my sister to get a GX470 for her family but she failed and got an LR4.... only a matter of time before she converts to the way of lexus as well.....
car was in the shop for a month...
They gave my parents an es350 while the car was getting repaired.... they could not believe how much nicer the lexus drove / rode / experience was.
2 months later my parents had a brand new es350....
now in the family, 4 lexuses , (GS430, Gs400, IS350, ISF) and one (545i)
I tried to get my sister to get a GX470 for her family but she failed and got an LR4.... only a matter of time before she converts to the way of lexus as well.....
07-17-12, 12:20 PM
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I had 328i and never had problems, i think it's about owner, the most people think BMW is a sports car and they drive like a crazy abuse them of course it will break any car would , the fact is BMW it's not a sport car it has sporty feeling and it was made for daily driving not for race from block to block.
And another thing if Lexus will make all their cars handle same as bimmers a lot of people would switch to Lexus.
And another thing if Lexus will make all their cars handle same as bimmers a lot of people would switch to Lexus.
07-17-12, 05:38 PM
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I had 328i and never had problems, i think it's about owner, the most people think BMW is a sports car and they drive like a crazy abuse them of course it will break any car would , the fact is BMW it's not a sport car it has sporty feeling and it was made for daily driving not for race from block to block.
And another thing if Lexus will make all their cars handle same as bimmers a lot of people would switch to Lexus.
And another thing if Lexus will make all their cars handle same as bimmers a lot of people would switch to Lexus.
all car manufacturers have lemons, german cars just tends to have more electrical lemons
while american cars tends to have more mechanical lemons
even lexus have specific cars that have issues too, but the chance is just lower in comparison
of course maintenance kicks in too, but driving style shouldn't be too much of a big issue if you know how to take care of the car because cars are mean't to be driven
07-17-12, 06:00 PM
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07-17-12, 06:14 PM
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For mod cost, I'm not sure if you guys are talking about mod for looks or performance. I know my friend was going to buy a $250 chip that will increase 50HP for his car, but he was worry it would break stuff since he's about out of warranty.
From what I heard, the 328i is a lot more reliable than 335i (at least the engin related things like the HPFP, turbo (it doesn't have), etc that breaks in the 335i).
From what I heard, the 328i is a lot more reliable than 335i (at least the engin related things like the HPFP, turbo (it doesn't have), etc that breaks in the 335i).
07-17-12, 06:29 PM
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I own both 350 and M3 which I still miss. To all due honesty I didn't have an issue with the M3 since the 5yrs of ownership. Like stated every maker has it problems. With my M3 only time it went to the dealer was for oil change. My 350 been in the dealer for more recall/tsb than the M3.
07-17-12, 07:11 PM
#43
For mod cost, I'm not sure if you guys are talking about mod for looks or performance. I know my friend was going to buy a $250 chip that will increase 50HP for his car, but he was worry it would break stuff since he's about out of warranty.
From what I heard, the 328i is a lot more reliable than 335i (at least the engin related things like the HPFP, turbo (it doesn't have), etc that breaks in the 335i).
From what I heard, the 328i is a lot more reliable than 335i (at least the engin related things like the HPFP, turbo (it doesn't have), etc that breaks in the 335i).
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07-17-12, 08:09 PM
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I had a IS300 with zero issues till 185k miles minus the cats at 160k & clutch at 150k. My 05 M3 had no issues that I paid to fix....BUT the actual issues were a bad vanos, needed a clutch at 75k, and the constant pressure valve AT 50k. Now my IS350 has been pleasant with nothing in site yet. Don't even mention my girls 545i... carbon build up ($5k), passenger seat belt sensor, passenger seat sensor, oxygen sensor, and the list continues..
The problem with BMW is that they depend to heavily on sensors. These sensors often fail for no apparent reason thus costing the owner more money. The constant pressure valve is a 30 minute, $4 fix if you do it in your driveway though BMW charges $400 to fix it roughly. BMW makes the constant pressure valve fail just to get you to spend a little $$$ on their lovely services----I would do the same
The problem with BMW is that they depend to heavily on sensors. These sensors often fail for no apparent reason thus costing the owner more money. The constant pressure valve is a 30 minute, $4 fix if you do it in your driveway though BMW charges $400 to fix it roughly. BMW makes the constant pressure valve fail just to get you to spend a little $$$ on their lovely services----I would do the same