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Old 11-15-12 | 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Mingus
Now that cold weather is here, its best to let these expensive cars warm up for a "few" minutes before screeching out of the driveway depending on just how cold out it is.
I've read/heard the exact opposite actually is best. But not to the point of doing WOT pulls on the cold motor; just drive normal until at temp...then drive like me. LOL!

But yeah, cold motor/cold trans = thicker fluids.
Old 11-15-12 | 03:43 PM
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I'm not too worried..

However if someone got 250K on their transmission, that is A LOT of freeway mileage in which the transmission isn't really doing a whole lot of shifting.

Even an automatic transmission from 30 years ago will last 250K plus if it is mainly driven on the freeway.
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Originally Posted by Gville350
I've read/heard the exact opposite actually is best. But not to the point of doing WOT pulls on the cold motor; just drive normal until at temp...then drive like me. LOL!

But yeah, cold motor/cold trans = thicker fluids.
There seems to be a lot of controversy about starting and going vs. warming up a bit and then going.

I feel it is better for things to warm up a little bit before putting a load and stress on components. If your transmission isn't shifting right, and running rough when it is cold out, you can probably be guaranteed there is more wear and tear happening than if all the shifts are smooth and comfortable.

However, I've never said anything about letting the car idle in the driveway until the temperature gauge is the normal position.
Old 11-15-12 | 07:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Mingus
There seems to be a lot of controversy about starting and going vs. warming up a bit and then going.

I feel it is better for things to warm up a little bit before putting a load and stress on components. If your transmission isn't shifting right, and running rough when it is cold out, you can probably be guaranteed there is more wear and tear happening than if all the shifts are smooth and comfortable.

However, I've never said anything about letting the car idle in the driveway until the temperature gauge is the normal position.
There's not much controversy, warming up by idling is bad for the car, period.

There's a reason excessive idling is one of the things that puts the car into the severe service maintenance schedule, and there's a pretty long thread detailing the technical reasons why you're hurting your car doing it.

To 'warm up' the car, drive it. Just don't drive it especially hard until the temp gauge moves.
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You can always do what I do.

I let the car start and won't drive until the intial high RPMs die down. The engine is still cold but I give it that initial half a minute to let everything get in working order. Then I drive it normal and don't gun it until the car is at operating temp.

Watch, you'll start doing it now. It's called the UniSlayEX Start-Up haha!
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Originally Posted by Kurtz
There's not much controversy, warming up by idling is bad for the car, period.

There's a reason excessive idling is one of the things that puts the car into the severe service maintenance schedule, and there's a pretty long thread detailing the technical reasons why you're hurting your car doing it.

To 'warm up' the car, drive it. Just don't drive it especially hard until the temp gauge moves.
Over idling yes....

You are also hurting your car by putting the engine and transmission under undue stress from lack of proper lubrication when the oil is as thick as molasses when the temperatures are cold outside.

Pick your poison.
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Originally Posted by Mingus
Over idling yes....

You are also hurting your car by putting the engine and transmission under undue stress from lack of proper lubrication when the oil is as thick as molasses when the temperatures are cold outside.

Pick your poison.
Yea not sure what fluids are as thick as molasses. All of the fluids are made to run in these and all cars under all conditions. Just pick the proper fluid for the temprature you live in. I think the biggest concern would be your coolant system in sub zero temps, you must have the proper mix in the engine. A good block heater will also help.
Old 11-16-12 | 09:05 AM
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In California or Florida this is not really a concern. Where I live, and it is in the 20s in the morning oil is pretty thick and takes a while before lubrication is optimal.

I've just noticed too many people start their car and throw it in gear the second it starts and gun it out the driveway...

But I guess since most people on here lease anyways, who cares right?
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Originally Posted by Mingus
In California or Florida this is not really a concern. Where I live, and it is in the 20s in the morning oil is pretty thick and takes a while before lubrication is optimal.

I've just noticed too many people start their car and throw it in gear the second it starts and gun it out the driveway...
If it's in the 20s and you're using proper oil then by the time you put your seatbelt on there's plenty enough lubrication to safely drive the car at reasonable speeds.

You're hurting the engine by sitting there idling past that point.

Your owners manual is pretty clear on this point, explaining there's no need to "warm up" the vehicle.

This isn't the 1950s anymore.
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