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Old 03-23-20, 01:51 AM
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Does anyone know if a Auto transmission from a 2013 F Sport 2IS IS250 RWD will fit a 2006 IS250 RWD? I read somewhere that they have different part numbers.

Can replacing the tranny be done completely from under the car or does the engine bay need some dismantling?

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I think depends if it they’re both 250 transmissions. You didn’t mention whether if it’s a 350 or 250 on the 2013 transmission
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You could PM or locate handle 2013FSport or Mr.Fig16

you should find 1 of them and they usually have been proven to be a Leader when it comes to questions.
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Originally Posted by davidbusta
I think depends if it they’re both 250 transmissions. You didn’t mention whether if it’s a 350 or 250 on the 2013 transmission
Yes the 2013 one is IS250 RWD as well.
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This may help you some:
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/is-...val-a960e.html
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Look at your VIN plate where it displays "A/TM", It should display A960E. While as I know it, the later years migrated to the A760E which is not a direct swap.

FWIW: None of AWD transmission will swap the A760H, although the main case is the same, the output shaft is different.

Revised post: All 2IS RWD 250's are A960E

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Originally Posted by 2013FSport
Look at your VIN plate where it displays "A/TM", It should display A960E. While as I know it, the later years migrated to the A760E which is not a direct swap.

FWIW: None of AWD transmission will swap the A760H, although the main case is the same, the output shaft is different.
Ahh damn, so even though both cars are IS250 RWD, you saying the transmissions wont match? I' having a few issues with mine being high milage and to get a second hand one from a similiar year is usually very high mileage too so seems pointless. Only option to get low miles is to go for 2009+. I've checked the part numbers on all the a 2009, 2010 and 2013 transmission and it's all the same. So at what point did it change? The part number for those comes back as 3501053100. I need to try and find the part number for my car
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The IS250 RWD always used the A960E and the part number is the same for 2006-2013 (35000-53110). You can use it without issue.

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Originally Posted by 2013FSport
Look at your VIN plate where it displays "A/TM", It should display A960E. While as I know it, the later years migrated to the A760E which is not a direct swap.

FWIW: None of AWD transmission will swap the A760H, although the main case is the same, the output shaft is different.
Just did some googling of the A960E and the A760E and i found the following on Wiki. Based on that info the A960E seems like it's been the same A960E on all years of the 2IS IS250. I messaged the breakers to ask them to send pic of the VIN sticker, on it sideways it says A/TM B02A / A960E. So I assume the 2013 car has the A960E on it. I'll check my sticker later today and see what my sticker says.


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For the 2IS, there are 6 types of transmission used:

IS200d/220d: RA63
IS250 RWD MT: RA62
IS250 RWD AT: A960E
IS250/350 AWD: A760H
IS300/350 RWD: A760E
IS F: AA80E

All 2IS IS250 RWD's used the same transmission for all years. For others, internals may vary within the same type (for instance the A760H in the IS250 AWD is not exactly the same internally as the A760H in the IS350 AWD, and so on).

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Originally Posted by Jeff Lange
For the 2IS, there are 6 types of transmission used:

IS200d/220d: RA63
IS250 RWD MT: RA62
IS250 RWD AT: A960E
IS250/350 AWD: A760H
IS300/350 RWD: A760E
IS F: AA80E

All 2IS IS250 RWD's used the same transmission for all years. For others, internals may vary within the same type (for instance the A760H in the IS250 AWD is not exactly the same internally as the A760H in the IS350 AWD, and so on).

Jeff
OP, sorry I steered you wrong. Jeff is the master.

Jeff, I looked through a bunch of threads and knew the AWD switched to A760H....

Thanks for the correction...

PS - looking for this plate data. This being my RWD IS350.
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Originally Posted by Jeff Lange
For the 2IS, there are 6 types of transmission used:

IS200d/220d: RA63
IS250 RWD MT: RA62
IS250 RWD AT: A960E
IS250/350 AWD: A760H
IS300/350 RWD: A760E
IS F: AA80E

All 2IS IS250 RWD's used the same transmission for all years. For others, internals may vary within the same type (for instance the A760H in the IS250 AWD is not exactly the same internally as the A760H in the IS350 AWD, and so on).

Jeff
Thank you Jeff,

​​​​​​​Just wondering, where is the transmission ECU located? Reason I ask is because although my transmission is a 2006 transmission, when the dealership did the last solenoid job in 2013, the actually upgraded the software on the transmission ECU. So when I get a second-hand transmission thats from a 2010 for example I'm wondering is the transmission ECU on the transmission body itself? So will the ECU get replaced too ?
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The transmission ECU is integrated with the engine ECU and is mounted in the engine bay behind the LH headlight. It won't be replaced with the transmission.

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Originally Posted by Jeff Lange
The transmission ECU is integrated with the engine ECU and is mounted in the engine bay behind the LH headlight. It won't be replaced with the transmission.

Jeff

I know there are 3+ iterations of the valve body but no clue if that altered the TCU. Could be as simple as the materials used?
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Thank you Jeff and 2013FSport. I'm looking at a few options for the used transmission. One option is from a 2013 F Sport with just under 50k miles on it and the other option is a 2010 F Sport with 86k miles on it. When fitting it, I plan to have the oil drained and filter changed and filled with new WS fluid. The 86k one is about 100 bucks cheaper. Looking at the photos of both, On the 2013 lower mileage the torque converter plate thing that attaches to the engine seems quite badly rusted (picture below) I think this might be because it has been off the car for some time and maybe because of that? The 2010 one doesn't have this rust yet but if it's sitting around maybe it will develop the rust too? If this plate has rusted up just for sitting around, what are the chances of things inside and behind the torque converter etc like the clutch plates and all the gears being rusted? If there is any rust inside, that will be a disaster.

Oh and also, the face of the bell housing that connects to the engine block, will the transmission shop need to put a new gasket or seal between engine block and the bell housing?




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