2023 IS stolen in Toronto
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2023 IS stolen in Toronto/ Ontario
My 2023 IS was stolen in Ontario a few nights ago. They smashed my sunroof and drove off. I was able to recover the vehicle with a tracker! Where do I go from here after it is repaired by the insurance? Any recommendations on how to prevent this from happening again?
Background: My car was locked and keys were in a RFID box!
Background: My car was locked and keys were in a RFID box!
Last edited by 2TreeIS; 07-26-24 at 06:42 PM.
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Rhydg1 (07-27-24)
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Sorry to hear, it’s the second incident I’ve seen reported here where the thieves smashed the sunroof.
Other victim says he is installing a kill switch.
Other victim says he is installing a kill switch.
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Absolutely ridiculous. And the Toronto police does nothing to stop it, they even tell you to leave your keys at your front door LMAO.
I think they steal the cars by making a new key through the OBD2, I’d find a way to disable it. Or just move to the US
I think they steal the cars by making a new key through the OBD2, I’d find a way to disable it. Or just move to the US
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RussellTeo (07-22-24)
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My car was stolen more than a month ago. A Kill switch is the best option. An Airtag is important in getting the car back. We don't have a garage, so I'm being more diligent about putting a cover on the car.
Going through the sunroof after shattering it is common now. The cop who came to our house said they plug a device into the OBDII reader and get the signal that way. I'm glad you got your car
back and it is repairable.
Going through the sunroof after shattering it is common now. The cop who came to our house said they plug a device into the OBDII reader and get the signal that way. I'm glad you got your car
back and it is repairable.
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RussellTeo (07-27-24)
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My 2023 IS was stolen in Toronto/ near Northern Ontario a few nights ago. They smashed my sunroof and drove off. I was able to recover the vehicle with a tracker! Where do I go from here after it is repaired by the insurance? Any recommendations on how to prevent this from happening again?
Background: My car was locked and keys were in a RFID box!
Background: My car was locked and keys were in a RFID box!
2) where was the second key stores at?
You can try getting that box with the keys inside and try to open the door of a locked car to see if the box can provide strong enough attenuation or not.
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If they did a relay attack they wouldn’t need to break the sunroof, the key storage wasn’t the reason why it got stolen
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I think what was being said earlier is that keys are not needed, they could be on the moon, and the thieves can still start and take your car.
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Interesting how this wasnt a problem before but now it is. Those thieves who use this, arent smart enough to develop the tech of this level.
found this: https://www.theregister.com/2023/04/06/can_injection_attack_car_theft/
https://kentindell.github.io/2023/04/03/can-injection/
Last edited by sunamer; 07-22-24 at 10:03 AM.
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RussellTeo (07-27-24)
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I agree... but this attack seems to be weird to me. Looks like, they access the main bus of the vehicle(hence the need to get inside or remove a headlight to get to the wiring, hook it up, and somehow produce/inject the "ok" signal that tells the ECU that it is okay to start the engine.
Interesting how this wasnt a problem before but now it is. Those thieves arent smart enough to develop the tech of this level.
Interesting how this wasnt a problem before but now it is. Those thieves arent smart enough to develop the tech of this level.
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The amount of Lexus cars being stolen recently is alarming; I saw 2 in CA within a week using a similar CANBUS attack.
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Looks like Toyota's assumption about the integrity of the bus and vehicles perimeter integrity were wrong.
if they truly send "key authenticated" within the CAN and the ECU simply listens to that, that is just lame.
It is like having a connector on the side of a safe where if you apply voltage to it, it would open without the needed combination.
Last edited by sunamer; 07-22-24 at 10:57 AM.
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RussellTeo (07-27-24)
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Yep.. The device to inject CANBUS messages is about 5k. Looks like its cost is less than $100 to make. Unless toyota finds a way to encrypt it, this wont stop.
Looks like Toyota's assumption about the integrity of the bus and vehicles perimeter integrity were wrong.
if they truly send "key authenticated" within the CAN and the ECU simply listens to that, that is just lame.
It is like having a connector on the side of a safe where if you apply voltage to it, it would open without the needed combination.
Looks like Toyota's assumption about the integrity of the bus and vehicles perimeter integrity were wrong.
if they truly send "key authenticated" within the CAN and the ECU simply listens to that, that is just lame.
It is like having a connector on the side of a safe where if you apply voltage to it, it would open without the needed combination.
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