The 2014 Lexus IS is expected to make its official debut at the 2013 NAIAS in Detroit

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10-07-12, 01:57 PM

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Historically, I don't see Lexus winning sporty cars comparison tests and I mean based on pure raw objective performance numbers. Lexus always seem to be a step or two behind the competition.

well now they do... and historically, Infiniti's dont do much of anything, do they? :-).

10-07-12, 02:18 PM

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well now they do... and historically, Infiniti's dont do much of anything, do they? :-).

Infiniti Gs have won comparison tests against the benchmark 3-series. When was the last time an IS beat a 3-series?

10-07-12, 02:47 PM

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Infiniti Gs have won comparison tests against the benchmark 3-series. When was the last time an IS beat a 3-series?

IS-F is higher rated than anything from Infiniti, ever, and rated well on all continents, not just USA.

Not to mention new GS.

If you live in the world where Infiniti is highly regarded, good for you :-).

10-07-12, 03:04 PM

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But has an IS-F beaten a M3? Yeah, I didn't think so. Speaking of Infiniti they currently don't have an equivalent to the IS-F but that will change with the next generation IPL G.

10-07-12, 03:10 PM

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Historically, I don't see Lexus winning sporty cars comparison tests and I mean based on pure raw objective performance numbers. Lexus always seem to be a step or two behind the competition.

Yea well historically the GS never beat the 5 series in performance and overall, but this generation did.

Looking to the past doesn't ALWAYS get you an accurate reading of the future.

10-07-12, 03:12 PM

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But has an IS-F beaten a M3? Yeah, I didn't think so. Speaking of Infiniti they currently don't have an equivalent to the IS-F but that will change with the next generation IPL G.

IS-F is quite highly rated, higher than anything Infiniti ever put out... if that will change tomorrow, I am not sure, but Infiniti has long way to go... they are currently 7th luxury brand in the USA, only market where they sell serious number of cars.

On the other hand, IS is based on GS, and GS is highly rated.

10-07-12, 03:20 PM

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Hopefully, 3IS will have a little more power bump even with the carried over engine.

10-07-12, 05:03 PM

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Hopefully, 3IS will have a little more power bump even with the carried over engine.

i doubt it.. maybe it will lose some weight though? I mean for 250 and 350...

10-07-12, 05:32 PM

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GS lost 150lbs for the current gen. So maybe the IS will lose some

10-07-12, 06:33 PM

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It will definitely lose some weight because it shares platform with the new GS.

10-07-12, 10:52 PM

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What do you mean by "highly rated"?

10-08-12, 12:30 AM

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What do you mean by "highly rated"?

http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...s/viewall.html

http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...d/viewall.html

http://www.insideline.com/lexus/gs-3...full-test.html

http://blogs.insideline.com/roadtest...trip-ride.html

http://blogs.insideline.com/roadtest...cery-cart.html

FYI, the 2013 GS350 F-Sport has posted higher slalom speeds than the 2013 BMW M5.

10-08-12, 12:38 AM

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GS lost 150lbs for the current gen. So maybe the IS will lose some

i thought 4gs kept the weight

10-08-12, 04:27 AM

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It is possible that the 2014 IS sedan(XE30) will be unveiled at the L.A. Auto Show on November 28, 2012.

10-08-12, 05:15 AM

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It is possible that the 2014 IS sedan(XE30) will be unveiled at the L.A. Auto Show on November 28, 2012.

If the sedan form is unveiled at LA auto show, I expect the coupe to be unveiled at Detroit. It would be faster than I expected, but that's a good thing.