The 2014 Lexus IS is expected to make its official debut at the 2013 NAIAS in Detroit
12-06-12, 07:42 AM
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All this is making me hesitate between buying the new GS now or waiting for the new IS next year.
The new IS is shaping up to repeat the same feat that the new GS achieved this year : slay the competitors in its segment in terms of handling and end up being the most complete, well balanced car in its respective segment.
The current pecking order in the mid-size luxury segment is GS > A6 > 5 series > E class > Infiniti M.
Next year, will it be : IS > 3 series > Cadillac ATS and Infiniti G > A4 > C class for the compact luxury segment ??
The new IS is shaping up to repeat the same feat that the new GS achieved this year : slay the competitors in its segment in terms of handling and end up being the most complete, well balanced car in its respective segment.
The current pecking order in the mid-size luxury segment is GS > A6 > 5 series > E class > Infiniti M.
Next year, will it be : IS > 3 series > Cadillac ATS and Infiniti G > A4 > C class for the compact luxury segment ??
12-06-12, 08:20 AM
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But yes, I agree the Lexus could upset the 3-series or ATS in "pecking order", depending on how you're judging that.
12-06-12, 08:30 AM
#813
Most of the reviews coming from major publications that have come out have put these all in different orders, hilariously so in the compact luxury segment. The A4 and C-class especially seem to regularly move from 2nd place to 2nd to last place, depending on the comparison. Hell, the C350 was just placed in second above the 3-series in the latest MotorTrend comparison. The Infiniti M in the midsize class is the only one I've regularly seen in the order you described. I'd also take issue with your placement of the Infiniti G, as its quite old at this point.
But yes, I agree the Lexus could upset the 3-series or ATS in "pecking order", depending on how you're judging that.
But yes, I agree the Lexus could upset the 3-series or ATS in "pecking order", depending on how you're judging that.
12-06-12, 08:45 AM
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Lexus offers up details on a possible IS-F coupe
During the LF-CC’s North American at the 2012 SEMA Show, Lexus Marketing Boss Brian Bolain offered almost every possible detail on an upcoming performance two-door vehicle without necessarily confirming the production model. The new model will replace the outgoing SC and will most likely be offered with an IS-F Coupe nomenclature.
When talking about the sports car’s exterior design, Bolain said that the LF-CC Concept is a clear indication of what the future model will look like, especially when it comes to the monoform grille which will first be used in the upcoming 2014 IS F-Sport sedan. Also, the upcoming performance coupe will feature the company’s new signature Spindle Grille recently seen on the new GS sedan.
"Design is not something we’ve ever been given credit for. Design has got to become one of our hallmarks. With LF-LC and LF-CC we’re starting to prove to outsiders we can do it."
The future IS-F Coupe’s power source is still under consideration and Bolain confirmed that everything is possible, starting from a four-cylinder engine all the way up to a V8 engine.
When talking about the sports car’s exterior design, Bolain said that the LF-CC Concept is a clear indication of what the future model will look like, especially when it comes to the monoform grille which will first be used in the upcoming 2014 IS F-Sport sedan. Also, the upcoming performance coupe will feature the company’s new signature Spindle Grille recently seen on the new GS sedan.
"Design is not something we’ve ever been given credit for. Design has got to become one of our hallmarks. With LF-LC and LF-CC we’re starting to prove to outsiders we can do it."
The future IS-F Coupe’s power source is still under consideration and Bolain confirmed that everything is possible, starting from a four-cylinder engine all the way up to a V8 engine.
12-06-12, 08:53 AM
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Agreed, I was including the ATS because I "should." Cadillac isn't there yet in terms of prestige.
On a side note, I think the upcoming coupe will do huge things to draw attention to Lexus. An attainable, striking Lexus will draw people into the showrooms in no time.
12-06-12, 09:01 AM
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Not sure what he really means by replacing the outgoing SC because the SC was a convertible and the upcoming model is a coupe. If anything, the current IS-C is already a replacement for the SC. Also, by suggesting that the new coupe will carry the IS-F Coupe nomenclature it implies that it'll only come with a performance-oriented powertrain with no lower-end options, which I think is highly unlikely, unless Lexus really wants to dilute the F marque. All in all I think most of this article was simply made up by the journalist.
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12-06-12, 09:11 AM
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Not sure what he really means by replacing the outgoing SC because the SC was a convertible and the upcoming model is a coupe. If anything, the current IS-C is already a replacement for the SC. Also, by suggesting that the new coupe will carry the IS-F Coupe nomenclature it implies that it'll only come with a performance-oriented powertrain with no lower-end options, which I think is highly unlikely, unless Lexus really wants to dilute the F marque. All in all I think most of this article was simply made up by the journalist.
12-06-12, 09:12 AM
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Tier 1 Luxury Mid Size
Lexus GS
Audi A6
BMW 5 Series
Mercedes E Class
Tier 1 Luxury Compact
Lexus IS
BMW 3 Series
Audi A4
Mercedes C Class
Tier 2 Luxury Mid Size
Cadillac CTS
Infiniti M
Acura
Lincoln
Tier 2 Luxury Compact
Cadillac ATS
Infiniti G
Acura
Lincoln
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12-06-12, 09:23 AM
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as spwolf mentioned no they did not get rid of remote touch. Which, for everyone else reading this should be clarified.
Remote Touch models have navigation and with RT they have the little wrist rest. On non navi models, a turn/push **** is used for the multimedia display.
Now here's the kicker. Most IS models will NOT come with navigation. Why you ask? Because the 14 IS will be the first to be able to stream your maps from your smart phone onto the multimedia display. No need for a $2000 OEM navi system anymore
Remote Touch models have navigation and with RT they have the little wrist rest. On non navi models, a turn/push **** is used for the multimedia display.
Now here's the kicker. Most IS models will NOT come with navigation. Why you ask? Because the 14 IS will be the first to be able to stream your maps from your smart phone onto the multimedia display. No need for a $2000 OEM navi system anymore
12-06-12, 09:28 AM
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12-06-12, 09:31 AM
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Of course the IS-C is not a successor to the SC, but it is a replacement for the SC in terms of being the only 2-door choice in Lexus's lineup (the LFA notwithstanding). It will have to do until the day a true SC successor arrives.